I bet I got you all beat, for geezerdom. I learned to program Fortran on punch 
cards. 3 runs a day and output was delivered by a messenger, human that is. No 
freakin’ internet for me! If I remember right, our mainframe, a CDC 3600 had 
512K of memory.

Merry Christmas, fellow Livecoders.

Bill Prothero

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 22, 2021, at 5:14 PM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> OK, memory lane time.
> 
> Before we had 1200 baud modems, we used to use acoustic couplers. I often 
> used one to call from the main office (England) to our US office, at a 
> mind-blowing 300 baud.
> 
> Problem was, in those days (1978 I think), even voice transatlantic calls 
> were hit or miss. Often you got a undersea cable connection (slight delay and 
> echo, but you could have an almost normal conversation), other times you got 
> a satellite connection (usually little or no echo but very high latency, 
> making conversation frustrating).
> 
> The acoustic coupler call would fail if you got the wrong kind of connection, 
> so we'd usually wait until the middle for the night to make it more likely 
> we'd get a successful call.
> 
> Ah fond memories of the days when I could stay up till 3am and still function 
> the next day :-)
> 
> Alex.
> 
>> On 23/12/2021 00:41, Martin Koob via use-livecode wrote:
>> I must be in the really ancient fogey range.
>> 
>> I remember 1200 baud modems.  In the late ’80s a teacher at our high school 
>> in Wawa, Ontario got his hands on one. It was the size of an air fryer. Our 
>> computer club at the school hooked it up to a Commodore PET 2001 and tried 
>> to connect to Compuserve.  Long waits listening to modem squeals but we 
>> never managed to get connected then.  We were in Wawa which is on the north 
>> shore of Lake Superior so maybe the phone connection was not good enough.
>> Here is the state of the art then, 
>> http://www.technofileonline.com/texts/2400modem88.html 
>> <http://www.technofileonline.com/texts/2400modem88.html>
>> 
>> I also remember my Apple GeoPort modem with my Mac Quadra 660AV I think.  
>> https://apple.fandom.com/wiki/GeoPort <https://apple.fandom.com/wiki/GeoPort>
>> 
>> From the above article here are GeoPort speeds.
>> GeoPort Telecom Adapter M1694LL/B - 14.4 kilobaud 
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/baud> (kbps)
>> GeoPort Telecom Adapter (II) M2117LL/A - 28.8 kilobaud 
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/baud> (kbps)
>> GeoPort Telecom Adapter II M5438LL/A - 33.6 kilobaud 
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/baud> (kbps)
>> 
>> Martin
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Dec 22, 2021, at 4:02 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
>>>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just downloaded both the Mac and Win32 simultaneously via the download 
>>> page in about a minute. Using “SpeedTest”, I get 110Mb/sec.
>>> 
>>> <old fogey> I remember when got our first t1(1.544mb/sec) and thought we 
>>> were styling ridiculous </old fogey>
>>> 
>>> Ralph DiMola
>>> IT Director
>>> Evergreen Information Services
>>> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of William Prothero via use-livecode
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2021 3:34 PM
>>> To: JJS via use-livecode
>>> Cc: William Prothero
>>> Subject: Livecode downloads VERY slow
>>> 
>>> Folks:
>>> When I download an update to Livecode, it takes hours. I’m wondering why. 
>>> Locally, using “SpeedTest”, I get 160Mb/sec internet speeds. Could it be 
>>> the livecode server that serves the updates? Just wondering.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>> William Prothero
>>> waproth...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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