I'll refer again to the Firebird project. One of the ways they were able to build on this opensource project was that as a community they employed and funded programmers (mostly in Russia, if memory serves) to add the features the community wanted. So one way or another FOSS projects end up requiring payment.
There are other FOSS projects where the developers of the project end up getting fame because of it, leading to them being head-hunted as a team, leaving the project languishing as the developers all go off to be employees of Twitter, etc. In other projects the developers get employed as consultants in implementations of the project in corporate environments. I look on payment to Livecode Ltd as payment to protect me from low-level languages. With that mentality the idea of contributing to the C source code is the opposite of what I want. I suspect most LC users have this mentality. Regards Bernard. On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 1:28 PM Andre Garzia via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > People had eight years to contribute to the community edition, and they > didn't. I don't think people would now start caring for and devoting the > necessary energy to maintain the community edition. It is because people > didn't organise and contribute that this recent change happened. > > On Wed, 1 Sept 2021 at 12:56, David Bovill via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > Here are my thoughts on this - and a request. > > > > Yes - it’s not a surprising move by Livecode Ltd - they were clearly > > struggling supporting the community aspect and taking the language to the > > next level and they need more revenue to do that. > > > > The question is (for my part at least) - what to do about this. > Personally > > I have never seen a future for a closed source language, and the > projects I > > work on will not fund. Projects developed in closed source - especially > by > > a small company. So I have a choice, switch language, or look to continue > > with developing with the community edition and help build an open source > > community around that. The former (switching languages) is relatively > easy, > > the latter a lot of work. > > > > I’m happy to have a company like Livecode Ltd create closed source > > products that I can use, so how to have both an open source language, > and > > the ability to work with closed source products developed by Livecode > Ltd? > > As I see it the only option is for those interested in the community to > > take control and responsibility for the core language. > > > > There are a number of options with regard to future language development, > > that would put the language on an even par with other open source > > languages, and there are also new ways to finance such initiatives. It > > would be valuable to get together as a community and discuss those. > > > > How about having a community conference to look at what is possible? We > > can do this online and showcase new and existing open source projects and > > discuss the opportunities this new environment presents? > > > > > > 📆 Schedule a call with me > > On 1 Sep 2021, 12:18 +0100, David V Glasgow via use-livecode < > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>, wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On 1 Sep 2021, at 11:26 am, Bernard Devlin via use-livecode < > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > There you had a group of programmers who supposedly loved what > > > > HyperCard could do, but they only loved that concept as a historical > > > > artefact, not as a tool available to people now. > > > > > > Abso-frogging-lutely. > > > > > > The really interesting questions are “why?" and “Is there anything we > > could do about it?” > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > > David Glasgow > > > Consultant Forensic & Clinical Psychologist > > > Carlton Glasgow Partnership > > > Director, Child & Family Training, York > > > Honorary Professor > > > Sexual Offences, Crime and Misconduct Research Unit > > > Nottingham Trent University > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > use-livecode mailing list > > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > subscription preferences: > > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > _______________________________________________ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > > -- > https://www.andregarzia.com <http://www.andregarzia.com> > Want to support me? Buy me a coffee at https://ko-fi.com/andregarzia > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
