Re: Close & remove from memory - Engine hang

[Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode]

Panos:

> What Tiemo described sounded like this issue
> https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22896
> - so if this is the
> case, this bug is very specific to Big Sur,
> and it is fixed in LC 9.6.2 RC-1+.

Hi Panos,

I'm not disputing that you recently addressed a specific Hang.
But you are staring at a tiny sapling, and not seeing the mighty forest:

Hangs have become a defining feature of the LC experience.
They are quite common on both Mac and PC in various situations.

Not limited to Big Sur.
Not limited to Mac.
Not limited to Windows.
Not limited to sheets.
Not limited to dialogs.
See where I'm going with this?

LC Experience = Hangs.

Using LC = Risking a Hang.
Launching LC = Starting countdown to a Hang.

I've seen similar hangs when closing stacks.
And it sure as heck wasn't Big Sur or even Mac.
It was on Windows.
And it ain't fixed as of LC 9.6.2 RC-1+.

Completely different bug? Maybe.
Same LC Experience? Yes!

LC has a "Hang Problem."
If you don't realize that, you're part of the problem.

Likewise I've seen many hangs for other reasons:
Other triggers. Other recipes to write.
Other bug reports I will file AFTER I finish deadlines.

(If you can wave a wand to extend my deadlines, I'll do reports first!)

So the problem is not one small specific Big Sur sheet dialog bug.
That's the tiny sapling. It's cute, but there's a big forest behind it.
And that forest is: LC frequently hangs. It's Hang-prone. "Hang-ey."

If LC IDE had a mascot character right now, he'd be frozen in a pose.
Maybe the Ice Man - Frozen Stiff, but still Warming Up your Laptop. :)
That's not a great image for the LC Experience. Please improve it.

I need to file a couple of bug reports after I finish my deadlines.
Still need to create reliable recipes; had to create workarounds first.

But you need to make LC less buggy (especially, fewer Hangs) in general.
Because it's not merely the couple of Hangs that I can report myself!

You have many Hangs in LC. Why?

They are quite common on both Mac and PC in various situations.
Hangs have become a defining feature of the "LC experience."
Let's change that. Thanks!

Best wishes,

Curry Kenworthy

Custom Software Development
"Better Methods, Better Results"
LiveCode Training and Consulting
http://livecodeconsulting.com/

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