Once I took a version of the LC IDE and edited one of the files in the package before opening it the first time. It would not open and complained about being corrupt/modified/something (can’t recall exact message).
I trashed it and extracted a fresh copy. I launched it once and then quit. Then I modified the file (actually a widget I believe). LC opened fine this time. So, at least a version or two ago (pre Catalina), the package contents were only verified as unchanged on first launch. Sent from my iPad > On Mar 29, 2021, at 6:22 PM, Neville Smythe via use-livecode > <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > >> On 30 Mar 2021, at 12:44 am, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: >> >> Unfortunately this has never been true on macOS X. >> >> The Resources folder (which is in the macOS app bundle) should be >> treated as read-only… > > Mark Waddingham chides me for saying it is OK to write to the Resources > folder in the app bundle on a Mac. Mark is, as ever absolutely correct. The > correct place for application support files is the Library/Applications > Support folder, and this has been the AppleGuideline for a very long time > (although I am not quite so sure about that *always* being the case..) I was > wrong, naughty, and I promise… Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. I strongly advise > against this awful filthy and degrading practice. > > Except m’lud (he said in a very small voice), may I offer some admittedly > post-hoc and flimsy excuses. > > 1. The app in which I do this originates from the days before the Application > Support folder existed (I am pretty sure) and has grown like Topsy ever > since. It worked then, it still works now. With one big caveat: this is ad > hoc software, distributed to a small group of users (Colin: by all the usual > methods - server, email, DropBox… they all work to deliver a working app > without my having to renew my lapsed Apple Developer registration.) If I were > to commercialise the app and so notarise it, I would expect writing to the > Resources folder *not* to work, probably notarising keeps a checksum of the > whole app bundle not just the executable. Maybe this distinction between ad > hoc and notarised software is part of the confusion of this very confused > thread, to which I have regrettably added more confusion. > > 2. It is a great convenience to my Mac users to be able to move their copy of > the app to another machine, or give it to a friend, without having to worry > about finding and transferring auxiliary files (unlike my linux users, who I > must advise to keep everything together in one directory). > > 3. There is no need for Installer code, or more problematic, and with a whiff > of sulphur to sensitive old-hand Mac user noses, an Uninstaller. Again if I > were to commercialise the app, these would come with the territory of license > files etc. > > 4. If my user wants to get at the auxiliary files, it is easy enough to > explain the arcane process of opening up the Contents of the bundle. > Explaining how to access the Library is only slightly more arcane, but I > really don’t want the uninitiated venturing into that dark scary and very > dangerous place . > > So, readers, don’t do it. But keep it to yourself if you do. And it probably > won’t work in MacOS 17.6. > > Finally on the problem of opening unsafe/unnotarised apps in recent MacOS, I > am afraid the discussion here has clearly only increased the confusion of the > original forum user. Surely best to refer to the definitive source, the Apple > Support documents which you can get by googling “How to open an unsafe app in > Big Sur” (or Catalina, or Mojave). The instructions from Apple are clear and > straightforward, unlike some tech forums which start off by talking about > using the terminal to turn off Gatekeeper. > > Neville > > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
