You are completely right. I just quoted a job...and knowing that the customer is going to ask me "where is the smooth scrolling?"..... i skipped over livecode entirely and quoted it using flutter....knowing I have no explanation or chance to give the customer the experience they expect.
Your point exactly. On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 9:32 PM Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > @ richard > > I love LiveCode, use it every day, probably till the day I die, if I not > meditating, singing or swinging kettle bells, and have invested in every > offer presented by Kevin since you "turned me on Metacard" when I used > Supercard and was looking for bigger solutions, and even bought into > Revolution before it signed the agreement with Scott Raney -- I think that > was circa 1990 when you sent that email. And now I have business license > "for life" and I have a lot of respect for the team and what they try to > do on some many platforms > > Having said that, I have been ranting on and off the past ten years, about > the Achilles Heel which is the "busted ankle" in Livecode. Simply this: > > Smooth Motion Graphics. > > "We shouldn't be scripting scrollers," > > is merely a "symptom" of a larger problem/gap/haitus in vision for the > future. > > Now you and I and plenty of old timers know that, e.g. the "my app" could > not be duplicated by some other language or "HTML5" without spending 10 > times the $ and time. I've been told that > > "Oh sure we could do that on "React/Elm/[or any other language]" > (SivaSiva app) but... uh, we could not make that Word Puzzle thing you did, > and that Module (stack) you made would take five time the money and effort > work. But, ours will look so professional!" > > So why will "The Other Thing" look "So Professional?" > > Simple: scrolling, easing, bouncing, smooth scrolling, ken burns effects > and cool transitions. > > I am not talking "animation" perse. Just the above. And scrolling is at > ground zero of these "effects" . It one thing to know, after 20 years of > HTML, web work, PHP, Javascript, that Livecode "will be the best tool for > this project in order to bring it to completion in 1/5 the time" > > It's totally another thing for LC to stand alongside other languages to be > tested by newbies who are > > a) content producers want to develop apps - photoshop, illustration, > Sketch expert...-- huge market there, but they have high production > values, expectations on the "look/feel" of the first card they make. Much > of which could be easily fix by tweaking the IDE. > b) a complete newbie e.g 17-year old whose been using a phone for three > years, and the app he sees "do cool stuff" but he can't make his LC app > "do cool stuff" > c) old school programmer who is tired of the horrible world of JS, PHP, > C++ and wants to have "fun" building solutions. > > All three markets have no idea what LC can do. They test drive it, and the > Achilles Heel kicks in: nothing appears to "work smoothly" (we can't even > run an animated GIF in LC while doing any else on the phone) and they are > on to other languages. > > Kevin said in an interview in California, that he wanted LiveCode to be in > the top ten languages... until we fix the Achilles Heel in the "look and > feel of what you produce" in Livecode, it will never happen. For every 50 > who register for a trial, I really wonder how many actually "sign up", > maybe 1-3? They are who see the potential for doing "in house tools/behind > the scenes software" that don't really care how it looks... > > I hope I am wrong...or wish that in 2 years, I will be "wrong" > > BR > > > > > > We shouldn't be scripting scrollers. > > If the control we placed on the card scrolls, it should scroll. Doesn't > matter if it's Mac or Windows or Linux. Shouldn't matter if it's iOS or > Android. > > Manually typing an interaction overlay is bizarre savagery better left > for those with a typing fetish than developers who want to be productive > using visual development tools like LiveCode. > > That this has not been addressed in the product -- even as so many of us > have scripted libraries to take care of this automatically in script -- > has always been concerning. > > And as we approach the 10th anniversary of iPhone, that this has never > been taken care of, or even put on a road map, the concern has grown. > > Vision, anyone? > > #UserExperience > #EmbraceVisualProgramming > #xTalksRule > #SomeoneHasToSayIt > #WhyIsNoOneSayingIt > > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Tom Glod Founder & Developer MakeShyft R.D.A (www.makeshyft.com) Office:226-706-9339 Mobile:226-706-9793 _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode