How do you people cope with the differences on fields and knobs having text in it on the different OS-es? If i only build on windows even for Linux and Macos, text and such never fits in the fields.And i have to adjust it and maintain a stack for each OS.
Dar Scott Consulting via use-livecode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> schreef op 4 oktober 2019 19:40:16 CEST: >The original question mentioned testing and debugging. > >I tend to develop on the Mac and test on Windows. At times I need to >develop on Windows because there are unknowns in the environment or I'm >using some Windows specific hardware. Especially internal hardware. > >It is a big pain to have multiple programming stations, so I set up >Windows workstations with monitors, keyboards and mice as needed. I >prefer to have my big wide monitor on my Mac and then remote in. I >currently use no-machine to access Windows machines. > >The focus in the discussion has been on processor, RAM and disk. For me >however, other hardware is important. That is, that which makes it hard >to test with virtualization needs to be in the real hardware. And often >one needs real hardware. Virtual Box has been good to me as far as >emulating hardware, but I need to test on real stuff. > >So, for me, the most important part is not so much processor-RAM-disk, >but I/O. I want lots of USB and a variety of such, front and back. I >want board slots. I want multiple NICs. RS-232 is a big plus. A >powerful GPU is a plus, but I hope to build a computation server >someday. Multiple kinds of video is good as well as handling multiple >monitors. I want Bluetooth and Wifi. I want WoL. Though I use >no-machine, I want to be able to remote desktop in, so W8.1 needs to be >Pro. As soon as I get a computer, a customer will come up with >something I neglected, so those slots are important. I get Pro for >everything if I can.) For a different machine, I might want something >with a touch screen that I can carry around. > >In my last buy, I compromised. I did not get high performance or slots. > >And speaking of Pro, Windows 10 Pro is, out of the box, friendly to us >old guys. > >As far as development on the Mac, Bootcamp does not work well for me, I >want to see all of my screens on all of my computers. Parallels is >good, but I have found that when Parallels and VMWare say no, Virtual >Box says yes. What good is higher RPM when you can't get it into >reverse? In general, virtualization allows me to swap out hardware or >display sizes quickly, bing, bing, bing. Network configuration testing? >No searching for switches, routers and cables. > >Just going by my memory (I recommend against trusting it), I do not see >a big performance hit. I think LiveCode on Windows 10 Pro on Virtual >Box 6 on Mac Mini runs slightly faster than LiveCode on macOS on >MacMini. That could be my imagination. Disk I/O might be a lot slower, >but it did not affect me. I typically use a LAN drive for such testing, >anyway, unless the tests directly involve a local drive. > >I have used MSDN Operating Systems to build a variety of virtual >machines and to load on real machines. However, things seem to be >different. Now the best way seems to be Visual Studio Pro, $1200 for >the first year, $800 for subsequent. > >Dar >Mad Scientist > > >> On Oct 4, 2019, at 2:34 AM, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode ><use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> >> >> For anyone truly interested in the original question of "Recommended >specs for Windows Development computer" >> >> (... as opposed to any OS-partisan virtue signaling, or avoiding >Windows hardware, or maintaining a single computer as the rule, etc >...) >> >> here's my take, from many years of often "Windows first, but not >Windows only" experience: >> >> - Biggest OS difference/biggest factor: anti-virus. I've literally >seen a Mac running with software techniques similar to today's PC >antivirus, and similar results. >> >> - I don't trust my PC to run Mac, nor my Mac to run PC. I get my >hands dirty on both, with dedicated hardware for each. You notice >more.... >> >> - PC doesn't require a huge investment. I use a budget (but not >bottom) laptop with as much hard disk and RAM as possible. Currently an >i5 chip and 8 GB memory, 1 TB RAM. >> >> - The specs I listed are quite adequate for professional LC dev. Any >extra power feels great, but remember that it also could cause you to >overlook issues affecting some of your end users. I intentionally use >budget hardware to make sure software is snappy for everyone. >> >> - Again, with Windows 10 it's all about managing antivirus and >various other software/settings to be allowed to use the inherent >performance of your machine. The power is in there, but you have to >remove the ball and chains. >> >> - Any OS-partisan biases (in other words reliving the 80s and 90s, >which felt so good) will tend to be confirmed by their own cognitive >influence on your perception of your limited experiences on another OS. >Using a system efficiently takes experience and learning, built into >habits. (There once was a system called MacOS that for a number of >years pretty much broke that rule. And during those bygone years, I was >proudly "Mac-first, but not Mac only.") Whatever OS you use, just >realize that many everyday users are equally efficient on the other >operating systems. >> >> I like having and using both almost daily, as long as I'm developing >for both. And developing for both is specifically how I ended up right >here! :) >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Curry Kenworthy >> >> Custom Software Development >> "Better Methods, Better Results" >> LiveCode Training and Consulting >> http://livecodeconsulting.com/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > > >_______________________________________________ >use-livecode mailing list >use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >subscription preferences: >http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Verstuurd vanaf mijn Android apparaat met K-9 Mail. _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
