Panos, I personally want to thank you for the support that you have given the users of LiveCode. You have been very responsive to my bug reports as well as others. I don't think anyone is targeting you for the problems or bugs that appear in LiveCode. Having said that, I believe that we developers are concerned that if the Windows or Linux or any other supported platforms are not performing up to par, any new users of LiveCode will have a subpar experience with LiveCode and become discouraged and not promote the use of LiveCode. I believe that LiveCode Developers are a Dedicated and Loyal group and want everyone to have a positive experience. The task that LiveCode has taken upon itself is a complicated one. Just the thought of creating a Development Environment that works on all OS's is phenomenal. Thanks to all of you at LiveCode. Keep up the Good Work, keep you eye on the Ball and remember we are all behind you. But we will keep you to task because we believe in the this Great Development Application.
Sincerely, Clarence Martin Email: chi...@themartinz.com Phone: 636 6965561 -----Original Message----- From: use-livecode <use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com> On Behalf Of panagiotis merakos via use-livecode Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 4:58 AM To: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> Cc: panagiotis merakos <merak...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.4 RC-1 Hello all, I can confirm that I do use both a Windows 7 old machine (4 GB ram / i3 non ssd) as well as a newer Windows 10 machine for some of my everyday tasks. I might use my Mac more often as it is faster thus more efficient for my work. Moreover, before we make a release, I do some manual prerelease testing on all platforms, in both VMs and native machines. The purpose of the manual testing is to catch issues that cannot be caught by our automated test suite. The 9.0.4 rc1 regression of the menus not hiding is one of these issues, which I should have caught, but I missed, as it does not happen all of the time, and I was unlucky enough to not seeing it happen when I interacted with menus during yesterday's prerelease testing. Thanks to some of the community that flagged this issue immediately, we are now building 9.0.4 rc2 that includes a fix to this issue, and this should be released asap. Now, regarding the general slowness on the SE on Windows, this is something a lot of users are affected, but unfortunately we have not been able to reproduce it in any of our Windows machines (either old or new, with and without Windows Defender), and this is the reason it has not been fixed yet. Hope this clarifies things a bit. Kind regards, Panos -- On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 at 13:45, Lagi Pittas via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > The problem is they are NOT eating their own "Dog Food" (that's the > cleaner Microsoft way of saying it - I am a bit more uncouth). > > I'm wondering if they are using the IDE and coding on a windows > machine (not just with Visual Studio), or if they are maybe the > machine has only has the development tools on and nothing else. > > This is the real world and we use real PCs with windows and lots of > other stuff - warts and all. I do have a couple of Macs but my bread > and butter is windows. > > Can the mothership (Panos?) you confirm someone (hopefully more than 1) > has actually tested the IDE/programming system real-world on a battle > hardened 4/8G I3/I5 NON SSD with windows 7 and 10 and not just an I8 > SSD Mac with 16G of RAM staright out of the box? > > Unless that happens we will be getting these slowdowns/crashes etc and > for a newbie "You'll never get a chance to make a good first impression" > > > Lagi > > On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 21:22, Clarence Martin via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > I am preparing to file a bug report because of the lack of > > performance in LiveCode 9.0.4 RC - 1. > > Some of the problems that I have encountered: > > The "Right Click" context menu locks open and is non-responsive. > > The options from the "Main Menu Buttons" can be unresponsive. So, at > times > > the save and exit buttons Do Not work. > > I made sure that this version of LiveCode have permissions with my > "Active > > Protection" software. > > This even worse than the earlier problems that I had with my > > previous Bug Report. > > I have reverted back to LC 9.03 RC - 2 and it works just fine. > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Clarence Martin > > Email: chi...@themartinz.com > > Phone: 636 6965561 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: use-livecode <use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com> On Behalf > > Of JJS via use-livecode > > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 12:01 PM > > To: Lagi Pittas via use-livecode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> > > Cc: JJS <j...@krutt.org> > > Subject: Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.4 RC-1 > > > > I don't know but the IDE seems rather unresponsive. Menu's keep on > > screen even when switched to other program. > > > > Before i started it i added it to Windows Defender just like the > > previous versions, so it won't be seen as something suspicious by > > Windows > Defender. > > > > Allready restarted it and same issue. Strange. > > > > Op 28-3-2019 om 19:30 schreef Lagi Pittas via use-livecode: > > > Well here may lie the reasons for all the slowdowns/crashes and > > > weird behaviours as I would assume the IDE uses every one of those > > > commands/statements ......... > > > > > > Fix memory leak when tracking mouse on macOS 21918 Fix memory leak > > > when using legacy macOS features relying on four-charcodes > > > 21919 Fix memory leak when fonts are loaded and unloaded on > > > macOS > > > 21920 Fix memory leak when using filter command > > > 21921 Fix memory leak when redrawing non-rectangular update regions > > > 21923 Fix memory leak when getting the formattedWidth of buttons > > > 21924 Fix memory leak when choosing popup menu item on macOS > > > 21925 Fix memory leak when using put [ into msg ] on macOS when > > > there is no message box > > > 21926 Fix memory leak when using put commands which target the > message > > box > > > 21928 Fix memory leak when using menu buttons > > > 21930 Fix memory leak in GetVariableEx and GetVariableEx > > > external V0 functions > > > 21931 Fix memory leak when executing send or call commands > > > 21932 Fix memory leak when performing queries using sqlite revdb > > > driver > > > 21933 Ensure modules dependent on com.livecode.assert can be > > > installed > > > > > > Regards Lagi > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 14:52, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode > > > < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > > >> Dear list members, > > >> > > >> We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.0.4 RC-1. > > >> > > >> > > >> Getting the Release > > >> =================== > > >> You can get the release at > > >> https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ > > >> or via the automatic updater. > > >> > > >> > > >> Release Contents > > >> ================ > > >> LiveCode 9.0.4 RC-1 comes with more than 35 bugfixes, including > > >> fixes to several memory leaks that had been around for a long time. > > >> Moreover, dozens of Dictionary entries have been corrected and > enhanced. > > >> > > >> > > >> Known issues > > >> ================ > > >> - The Browser widget's native layer is not shown in some Linux > > >> distros with Cinnamon window manager. > > >> - The use of the Browser widget is not supported on Ubuntu 18.04 > > >> 64 bit LTS yet. > > >> > > >> The full release notes are available from: > > >> > > >> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/9_0_4/LiveCodeNotes-9_0_4_ > > >> rc_1 > > >> .pdf > > >> > > >> > > >> Feedback > > >> ======== > > >> Please report any bugs encountered on our BugZilla at > > >> http://quality.livecode.com/ > > >> > > >> We have a forum available for discussing LiveCode Builder at > > >> http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=93 > > >> > > >> > > >> Have fun! > > >> The LiveCode Team > > >> -- > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> use-livecode mailing list > > >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > >> subscription preferences: > > >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > use-livecode mailing list > > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > subscription preferences: > > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > _______________________________________________ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > subscription > > preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
