On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 14:57 -0500, Philip Ganchev wrote: > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Shaun McCance <sha...@gnome.org> wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > I'm working on Yelp's bookmarks dialog, and I'd like some > > input. [...]
Just as a point of reference, my current git tree doesn't have a dialog anymore. You can remove a bookmark to the current page through a menu item. Also, the bookmark icon in the location entry now toggles. > > [...] You can't add a bookmark, short of going to a page > > and bookmarking it. You can't edit or duplicate a bookmark. > > And you can't reorder bookmarks. > > What about renaming a bookmark and going to a bookmark ? Maybe you are > suggesting it won't be possible to go to a bookmark from the dialog, > only from the Bookmarks menu, while clicking on the bookmark name in > the dialog will edit it? The editor dialog was able to go to a bookmark by pressing Enter. I wasn't sure where to put a button for that though. There wasn't anything like that in the lists pattern. As for renaming, help pages in Yelp have nice predictable names, without all the "[MySite] Page Title -- MySite.com (stuff a bunch of SEO keywords in the title)" crap you see on the web. So I didn't bother pestering the user with bookmark names. > [...] > > And thinking outside the pattern, should there even be a > > bookmarks editor dialog at all? Or should Yelp just allow > > you to remove a bookmark to the page you're looking at? > > It might be better without an editor. It's 2 extra clicks for every > bookmark removed -- activate bookmarks menu, select bookmark from the > menu, select "remove" from the menu (or from the tool bar) -- compared > to with the editor -- activate bookmarks menu (once), select Edit > Bookmarks (once), select bookmark, press Remove, close editor (once). > But also renaming a bookmark will have to be done by removing it and > adding one with a new name. Actually, in the somewhat rare case that a page title does change, Yelp automatically updates the bookmark name every time you visit the bookmarked page. No need to manually rename or remove and re-add. It just does the right thing. That's another reason not to deal with user renaming, as then I'd have to keep track of which ones were explicitly renamed so I don't clobber the name. Yelp is a much more lightweight animal than, say, a web browser. I'm trying to keep things very simple, designing for users who really don't want to spend a lot of time looking at help. -- Shaun _______________________________________________ usability mailing list usability@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/usability
