I agree with Kirk. The two desktops can share the same UI patterns, but they may have different "components" or whatever it's called.
Where do you think can we start? On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 1:44 AM, Kirk Bridger <kbrid...@shaw.ca> wrote: > I'm actually tackling a similar problem in my "real job" right now. > > I found this to be an interesting look at what a pattern library is and > what it should not be<http://www.uie.com/articles/components_vs_patterns/>. > It's a quick read that could then lead to an interesting discussion. > > For example, button ordering might not belong at the level of a pattern as > it doesn't really describe a problem and solution, but rather an > implementation of a component (or whatever term can be used). > > So perhaps the pattern library itself could be cross-desktop, and a more > implementation-focused library be created for each of the various desktops? > > If we're setting the pattern library to be so high level though it really > behooves us to look at the other pattern libraries out there to see if we > could just adopt an existing one rather than re-inventing the wheel. > > Kirk > > > > > > > On 09/06/2010 11:28 PM, Allan Caeg wrote: > > Hello! > > Remember the Compliance to GNOME UI Patterns of Cross-Platform > Apps<http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2010-August/msg00030.html>thread? > I emailed Celeste Lyn Paul from the KDE Usability team about the > possibility of working on a cross-desktop UI Pattern library. This way, > Cross-platform apps like Firefox would conform to UI patterns that are > applicable to different desktop environments and it may mean more people > working on the UI Pattern Library. Looks like she's interested. > > How do you think can we do this? Also, who else (other than KDE usability) > do we communicate with? > > You can find Celeste's email below. > > Best Regards, > Allan > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Celeste Lyn Paul <cele...@kde.org> > Date: Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 8:30 AM > Subject: Re: UI Patterns of Cross-Platform Apps > To: allanc...@ubuntu.com > > > Hi Allan, > > KDE has a few patterns listed in the HIG. It is a project we started 3 > years ago, but lost the contributors who were working on them. I think > having a cross-desktop library of UI patterns is a great idea. Let me > know how Gnome plans on working this out with other projects. > > ~ Celeste > > On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Celeste Lyn Paul <se...@obso1337.org> > wrote: > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone. > > Begin forwarded message: > > > > From: Allan Caeg <allanc...@ubuntu.com> > > Date: September 3, 2010 2:50:06 EDT > > To: se...@obso1337.org > > Subject: UI Patterns of Cross-Platform Apps > > > > Hello Celeste, > > > > The GNOME Usability Team is currently working on UI Patterns (see > > http://live.gnome.org/UsabilityProject/HIG3 , > > http://live.gnome.org/User%20Interface%20Patterns , and > > http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/ui-patterns). My work as the UX Advocate for > > Firefox exposed an issue related to it. I started a discussion with GNOME > > Usability people on whether or not cross-platform apps should follow the > UI > > Patterns. They seem to agree that cross-platform apps should comply to > the > > patterns. > > > > My concern now is for other environments especially KDE. I believe that > we > > can work together in generating UI patterns. This way, we can make > > cross-platform apps comply so they will fit nicely in KDE and GNOME. I > don't > > specialize in toolkits, but it seems that a shared UI Pattern Library > could > > work. > > > > What do you think can we do? :) > > > > Best Regards, > > Allan Caeg > > http://www.google.com/profiles/allancaeg#about > > > > > > -- > Celeste Lyn Paul > KDE Usability Project > KDE e.V. Board of Directors > www.kde.org > > > _______________________________________________ > usability mailing list > usabil...@gnome.orghttp://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/usability > > > _______________________________________________ > usability mailing list > usability@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/usability > > -- Regards, Allan http://www.google.com/profiles/allancaeg#about<http://www.google.com/profiles/AllanCaeg> +63 918 948 2520
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