Hi Rohan,

I haven't heard Ross Burton yet in this discussion, but I have heard you 
make some presumptuous (and insulting) comments about his motivation and 
general demeanor that, in my dealings with him, do not bear out.  It 
would be best if we can focus on the issue and not the personalities 
involved.

Ross has obviously made a programmatic decision to use MB rather than 
freedb.  It seems to me that the best solution here would be to get MB 
to update their submission interface to allow quiet submissions.  At the 
very least they could update their submission webpage to accept default 
information from a submitting application like SJ such that the track 
and artist info etc is automatically populated.  But none of this has to 
do with SJ.  SJ has to adhere to what MB provides.

In terms of usability I think we've heard that in general there is 
consensus that the current submission system is less than ideal, 
whatever the reasons.  Someone was kind enough to submit a bug that may 
help improve this situation (caching info locally).

If you are able to offer other solutions to the agreed-upon problem then 
bugzilla would be the place to provide those.  If you want to discuss 
the usability of proposed solutions, then lets get to those comments.

Using freedb has already been discussed and it has nothing to do with 
usability.  It is a solution that improves this situation but introduces 
other problems in doing so.  Ross has decided to stick to MB and we 
should accept his decision and trust that he is doing what's best for 
SJ.  If you disagree then I suggest you take it to bugzilla as a bug.  
The usability list is not the place to discuss the underlying 
programmatic decisions, generally.

Kirk


Rohan Oberoi wrote:
> That means lost
> data.  They typed in the track titles, and it was lost, because the
> developers were too arrogant to allow them the choice of having a
> button that submits what they just typed in to freedb.  Leave the
> choice for the user.  If they share your opinion about freedb they
> won't click the button.
>
>   
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