> Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 13:56:34 -0600 > From: rtg...@gmail.com > To: unity-design@lists.launchpad.net > Subject: Re: [Unity-design] Are there plans to add "Reboot" item to the > power-cog menu in panel? > > On 02/29/2012 12:43 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Carl Ansell wrote on 28/02/12 18:50: > >> We have a confirmation dialogue when the user clicks shut down, and > >> they can also select restart from this menu. So why don't we change > >> the menu so there is instead an option to 'end session', which then > >> leads to a confirmation dialogue that includes all the possible > >> options to end a session? > >> > >> ... > > > > Ubuntu used to do that, and it was horrid, because there are just too > > many choices.<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ubuntu_shutdown.png> > > > > (Joel Spolsky coincidentally explained why it was horrid, looking at > > the equivalent problem in Windows Vista. > > <http://joelonsoftware.com/items/2006/11/21.html>) > > > > I would be delighted if Ubuntu ever got to the point where it could > > have a single item as you describe, where that item did not take you > > to a confusing spectrum of session-ending commands. > > <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ExitStrategy> > > > > But achieving that simplicity would require the kind of low-level work > > that Ubuntu developers have never been interested in so far. > > > > First, kernel work to make Suspend and Hibernate a quick continuum. > > Have the computer quickly hibernate before suspending, so that after a > > specific time period in suspend state (or if it ran out of battery > > while in suspend state) it would power off, and later resume from > > hibernation instead. That way, "Suspend" and "Hibernate" wouldn't need > > to be separate choices. > > > > Second, implementing APIs so that application developers need do very > > little to save perfect state on exit. That way, "Log Out" and > > "Shut Down" wouldn't need to be separate choices: you could exit, and > > if nobody else logged in in the next 30 seconds, the computer would > > shut down. > > > > And third, allowing applications that are doing something continuous > > (like downloading a file) to run, at low ebb, while you are logged > > out. That way, "Switch User" and "Log Out" wouldn't need to be > > separate choices. > > > > There are all kinds of edge cases that would need to be either solved > > or retired. But that's why Ubuntu has seven ways to exit your session, > > while the iPad succeeds with only one. > > > > - - -- > > mpt > > - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) > > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > > > iEYEARECAAYFAk9OV3gACgkQ6PUxNfU6ecr4gACfeulRpTW1CvCba6tUjQTNHlkf > > RigAoKE6SIM0xDb5/hJkuibKeGNrd3vf > > =/H75 > > - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- mpt, I see your point. However, in this case, hibernate would not need to be in the list if it is disabled by default. If enabled, we could have a button like the one in XP, where pressing shift (or another button) switches between suspend and hibernate, as they perform similar functions. Also, lock screen is not a way to end the session, so it could be left in the menu. Maybe with an updated design (unity style?), it wouldn't look so bad?
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