i think Alan's suggestion was more that we needed an editor instead of where to click to show the editor. basically saying we need a more unity specific alacarte and just mentioned two places that seemed like logical access points.
alacarte does have the basics l but i don't think it's really a good solution to the user's suggestion at least not without some work done to it. it doesn't give the option to add the .desktop file to the launcher as was a part of Alan's suggestion. it doesn't give the option to add it user specifically or system wide as Alan's suggestion did. it can't show/hide or add/remove dash filters as you mentioned. it can't add/edit quicklists as you mentioned. it doesn't add things into the filters into the dash even if it's in a menu that the dash already has. it creates extra .desktop files in ~/.local/share/applications each time you move something to a different menu causing duplicates of that item to show up in the dash. it is logical that the editor would be in the system settings and it also seems like a good quick access point would be right clicking on the dash button since the editor would affect things in the dash and launcher. a number of us have been missing a decent user friendly not buggy way to edit our new menus (dash/launcher) since unity hit in 11.04. On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad < joerlend.schins...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 19. feb. 2012 15:36, Alan Bell wrote: > >> One common request is to add arbitary applications to the launcher. This >> is *hard* right now, you have to manually write a >> > > It's not hard, actually. It's quite easy. Install Alacarte. You can then > edit your menus to your hearts desire. Adding new items and menus is very > easy and they will then appear in the dash. However, what Alacarte doesn't > do, is to add static Quicklists (defined in the .desktop file) and other > modern stuff. So either Alacarte needs to be modernized or we're going to > need a replacement sooner or later. > > I would personally want it to be added as an entry in system settings. > You'd then have the main pane mostly as it is now, and then add new panes > for shell specific features for Unity, Gnome Shell, etc. We do still have > the old dialog that appeared when right-clicking the desktop and "Create > new launcher" or something, so that could very easily be reused. I don't > remember what it's called, though I seem to remember it having something to > do with Nautilus. However, I would much prefer to have the menu editor in > system settings rather than accessing dialogs by right-clicking desktop > widgets. It also makes it more generally useful with regards to other > shells. It would immediately work for both Gnome Shell, Unity and Gnome > Panel. > > I would have nothing against adding a Quicklist entry to the Ubuntu > button, though. "Edit launchers" could open the system settings entry for > menus. I don't think that'd disrupt anything. I think it would be the only > place on the launcher where it would make sense to add such an option. For > now, perhaps it could be solved by adding a quicklist entry that launches > Alacarte. Since it isn't installed by default, I think maybe that quicklist > entry should be added to Alacarte so that after it's installed, the Ubuntu > button gets a new quicklist entry. That should be an easy enough job that > it could be done in Precise. > > There are some unresolved issues with simply using Alacarte as is. As I > mentioned before, it provides no way of adding quicklists. Another thing is > that if you add another menu to the applications menu, it won't appear as a > category in the application lens filters. This means that even though it'll > appear in searches and in recent apps, it will not appear if you browse > categories in the applications lens. It's really a separate issue, but I > mention it because that might cause some confusion. This is probably a bug. > The lens should display the "Others" category (non-categorized). I reported > that issue here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/**ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-** > applications/+bug/936296<https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-applications/+bug/936296> > > It's a very interesting subject, but I think it's not as easy as where to > click in order to show the editor. There are lots of smaller issues to take > into account. > > Jo-Erlend Schinstad > > > > -- > Mailing list: > https://launchpad.net/~unity-**design<https://launchpad.net/~unity-design> > Post to : > unity-design@lists.launchpad.**net<unity-design@lists.launchpad.net> > Unsubscribe : > https://launchpad.net/~unity-**design<https://launchpad.net/~unity-design> > More help : > https://help.launchpad.net/**ListHelp<https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> > -- Josh Strawbridge
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