On 05/28/2015 09:22 PM, Scott DuBois wrote:
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 01:45:30PM -0700, Nathan Haines wrote:
It's also why when you first sign up, your membership expires in 2
weeks.  A lot of people serially click "join" links, but after a
couple of weeks of looking around, they'll know that Ubuntu
California isn't a LUG or user group, but an advocacy group.

Or they join to do some quick advertising on a run to reach mass market
penetration.

It's never been a problem before. The Launchpad membership doesn't allow any advertising anyway.

So that gives them a chance to evaluate whether or not they're
interested, and then when they click "renew", it's for a year.

But even if they *don't* renew, couldn't they simply sign up again at some later
point?

Sure, at some time in the future when they decide to become involved in Ubuntu advocacy. We don't want to keep people from signing up. We just want to make sure that they understand the group and are interested in its goals.

That said, we welcome anyone in California who is interested in
Ubuntu advocacy even if they're not throwing an event every week.
We've always used our existing events to train newer members, and
for example if you do SCALE, you can easy do any other event.

What about people who don't live in California? They would still be welcome if
they wanted. Being a resident isn't a qualification is it?

People who are not in California should join their state or country's Local Community team and should certainly not be a member of the California LoCo on Launchpad. This wasn't a problem until the Local Community Council stepped in and required the California Team to consider the list of team members on Launchpad as members with full voting rights, even though we hadn't used the team membership for anything before. They refused to allow the LoCo to set any conditions for membership at the time, either. (If I remember, they removed the in-place restrictions.)

There's still no use for the membership list in Launchpad except for voting privileges and it remains a problem in theory, although I don't believe in practice there has been an appreciable quality problem with the annual leadership votes.

As for the mailing list and IRC channel, the more the merrier as far as I'm concerned, as long as LoCo business isn't being impacted.

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