On 23/03/12 22:11, scoundrel50a wrote: > On 23/03/2012 22:04, Alan Pope wrote: > On 23/03/12 21:45, Daniel Case wrote: >>>> On 23 March 2012 21:21, Neil Greenwood >>>> <neil.greenwood....@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> They spent lots of money testing different behaviours >>>> In my opinion, this is where the problem lies. The main people >>>> Linux attracts, no matter which way you look at it, are hackers (in >>>> the general sense). > That's exactly the problem we're trying to solve. Not asking the > target audience, but only asking hackers would be arrogant and > foolhardy. That's why we don't do that. We do listen to feedback, more > than you'd imagine, and decisions taken about design (for example) are > directly affected by user feedback. That doesn't happen for every > minute decision, but it happens. > > We're also making it easier to buy computers with Ubuntu pre-installed > by talking to hardware vendors, to get it shipped from the factory. > It's hard work and takes a long time to do but we're getting there. > >>>> Which brings me back to my first point, who's going to advocate >>>> Ubuntu if it annoys the hacker and makes life more difficult? >>>> > Those of us who do like it, do use it and believe it is the right path > for Ubuntu to take. If you don't then you have a number of options:- > > * Install a different desktop environment on your Ubuntu system > * Join the discussion on the various Ubuntu development lists to > articulate how we're doing things wrong > * Test and file bugs when things don't work correctly > * Provide patches or programs to help Ubuntu& Unity to appeal > > Personally I am in this for the long haul. Each 6 monthly release is > fantastic, but I'm thinking years away from now, and I'm happy to > persevere through the rough times because I think the long term goal > is worth it. > > Frankly if people who are "inside" our community, "hackers" as you > call them aren't willing to get stuck in then Linux Mint, Debian, > Fedora and hundreds of other distros are -> that way. Enjoy! > > Cheers, >> > oooh and who took your dummy away.......that was my reaction when I read > that.......but the thing is, you work for Canonical, so your going to > say that, whatever happens........what is frustrating is people on here > are giving an opinion and its being thrown aside is if it doesnt matter > because you have all this research into what people like, but people are > here telling you different, that has been going on since 11.04 people > have said they dont like it......and its not getting better its getting > worse.....
I think that is an unfair response. Alan has personally given me unbelievable support over many years for my activities as a volunteer advocate of FLOSS and Ubuntu. What he says is sensible and quite proper, and I am delighted that he has the courage to post on this group. -- alan cocks -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
