On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Bruno Girin <brunogi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 10:38 +0100, Liam Proven wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Bruno Girin <brunogi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 08:53 +0100, Barry Drake wrote:
>> >> Hi there ...
>> >>
>> >> Just checked out the Dell UK site.  A search for Ubuntu now throws up
>> >> two netbooks and three laptops that actually are available with Ubuntu
>> >> and if you follow the customization through, it says they come with
>> >> 10.04.  The site still shows the Mini 10 as an Ubuntu machine, but
>> >> that's obviously a mistake.  Pity they've dropped the Mini 10v.
>> >> Barry Drake.
>> >
>> > Well, I've just tried most laptop models that the search returns and the
>> > only ones I manage to configure with Ubuntu are the Latitude 2100 and
>> > 2110 but they only come with 9.10, not 10.04. And the funny thing is
>> > that there's a big banner in the OS section saying "Don't forget to
>> > register for your Windows 7 upgrade after your purchase".
>> >
>> > That doesn't sound very committed to Ubuntu to me.
>> >
>> > Shame because I would be on the market for a top of the range Vostro
>> > 3300 if the specs that say it comes with Ubuntu were actually true. It's
>> > doubly frustrating because Dell seem to be one of the few vendors who
>> > have a 13" laptop with decent specs (the other one I know of being Sony
>> > but I have no hope in hell of running Ubuntu on a Sony, let alone
>> > getting it Windows free).
>>
>> You don't?
>>
>> I ask merely because I've run Ubuntu on both Dells and Sonys - and
>> IBMs and Toshibas - without any problems at all.
>
> Maybe it's worth a try then. But in that case, I'm back to the original
> problem discussed in this thread: I don't think I have any hope of
> getting a Sony without Windows pre-installed.

No, probably not. Although on a machine of that sort of price, the
portion of it that's accounted for by Windows is pretty small. If you
feel strongly about it, go for the non-use/refund route. There are
enough legal precedents now that some companies will cough up simply
to avoid hassle.

> Oh I'm sure there are no insoluble problems, it's just that I don't
> really feel like spending an inordinate amount of time getting it to
> work. If I am to buy a £1000+ laptop (top of the range as I said), I
> don't particularly want to find myself with a doorstop until I hunt down
> all the right drivers. Maybe a way to resolve that issue is to go to the
> Sony shop on Tottenham Court Road armed with a LiveCD and see what it
> says :-)

Sounds viable. Also, look up the models you're interested in, Google
their specs & check the components for any known howlers.

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