Thanks Daniel. Unfortunately I have two unrelated issues: 1. I'm such a newbie that much of the technical terminology passes me by. I have a copy of *Beginning Ubuntu Linux* (Thomas & Sicam / Apress) with Ubuntu 8.04LTS installation DVD. My system was set up at purchase so I have no experience of the installation process. 2. My system is Ubuntu-only; no other OS and everything on a single partition.
Can anyone a) confirm Daniel's memory work and/or b) provide an idiot-guide to solving my issue? Thanks in anticipation. Greg ubuntu-uk-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com wrote: > Send ubuntu-uk mailing list submissions to > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ubuntu-uk-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ubuntu-uk-ow...@lists.ubuntu.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of ubuntu-uk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Non ubuntu related question- Keyboard shortcuts for > google reader in Android (mac) > 2. Installing Ubuntu using wubi on Vista Home machine..... (John) > 3. LVD (maybe) (Ian Pascoe) > 4. Re: LVD (maybe) (Alan Lord (News)) > 5. Re: LVD (maybe) (Ian Pascoe) > 6. Re: Go on Linux, was Re: Chess Tournament? (Neil Greenwood) > 7. Re: LVD (maybe) (Neil Greenwood) > 8. Re: LVD (maybe) (Ian Pascoe) > 9. Re: Installing Ubuntu using wubi on Vista Home machine..... > (Gordon) > 10. Scrambled screen (Greg Herdman) > 11. Re: Scrambled screen (Daniel Rhodes-Mumby) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 12:31:38 +0100 > From: mac <ammonius.grammati...@gmx.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non ubuntu related question- Keyboard > shortcuts for google reader in Android > To: British Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com> > Message-ID: <4a0ea41a.6020...@gmx.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > javadayaz wrote: > >> Again All these shortcuts work on a normal keyboard and not android. >> > > Ah yes, sorry -- I see from various blogs and forums that people are > bemoaning the absence of keyboard shortcuts for Reader on Android. > Looks like you may be unlucky with this for now? > > mac > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 15:14:11 +0100 > From: John <jake...@sky.com> > Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Installing Ubuntu using wubi on Vista Home > machine..... > To: British Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com> > Message-ID: <4a0eca33.3070...@sky.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I am trying to install Ubuntu 9.04 on a vista machine. I got to the > install bit, and it showed that it was installing amd68 not i386. I want > to install the i386 as that is what I know. Can somebody give me the url > to the i386 installer for wubi? I cant seem to find it. > > Thank you. > > John. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 16:13:27 +0100 > From: "Ian Pascoe" <softy.lofty....@btinternet.com> > Subject: [ubuntu-uk] LVD (maybe) > To: "British Ubuntu Talk" <ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com> > Message-ID: > <bjebidfakagifdckkhileemagpaa.softy.lofty....@btinternet.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Hi Folks > > I think the correct acronym is LVD - it's the tool that can make multiple > HDDs look like a single HDD on a machine. > > Anyhow, a quick question on how it works. > > If you set up an installation using this tool, can you remove one of the > participating drives and use it on another machine with no problems? That > is to say if you have 2 SATA drives and you want to physically move one > drive to another machine, will it just connect and go, or do you have to do > something with the tool first before removal to re-create a properly > formatted drive? > > Cheers > > Ian > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 16:25:27 +0100 > From: "Alan Lord (News)" <alansli...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] LVD (maybe) > To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: <gumlt5$om...@ger.gmane.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 16/05/09 16:13, Ian Pascoe wrote: > >> Hi Folks >> >> I think the correct acronym is LVD - it's the tool that can make multiple >> HDDs look like a single HDD on a machine. >> > > I think you mean LVM. > > Logical Volume Management. > > Google/Wikipedia are your friends. > > Al > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 18:23:21 +0100 > From: "Ian Pascoe" <softy.lofty....@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] LVD (maybe) > To: "British Ubuntu Talk" <ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com> > Message-ID: > <bjebidfakagifdckkhiloemcgpaa.softy.lofty....@btinternet.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Hi Al > > Ah-ha, everything becomes clearer with the right acronym! Thanks. > > However, still not too sure about things having read the documentation. > > Can someone confirm for me please that: > > - the disk / partition's metadata is left intact and correctly formatted so > that a physical drive can be moved between machines without problems - > presumeing the correct commands are issued to remove the drive from the > virtual drive; > > and > > - when writing to the virtual disc, LVm won't split large files over > multiple physical partitions / drives unless specifically told to do so? > > Ian > > -----Original Message----- > From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com > [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Alan Lord (News) > Sent: 16 May 2009 16:25 > To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] LVD (maybe) > > > On 16/05/09 16:13, Ian Pascoe wrote: > >> Hi Folks >> >> I think the correct acronym is LVD - it's the tool that can make multiple >> HDDs look like a single HDD on a machine. >> > > I think you mean LVM. > > Logical Volume Management. > > Google/Wikipedia are your friends. > > Al > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 21:45:49 +0100 > From: Neil Greenwood <neil.greenwood....@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Go on Linux, was Re: Chess Tournament? > To: British Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com> > Message-ID: > <fd7a765d0905161345y1f5a584dsfdee320d8583d...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > 2009/5/15 Michael Rimicans <h...@bigmassiveheed.co.uk>: > >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311251 >> > > I haven't looked at the forums, I'll take a look later. > > >> http://www.britgo.org/ >> > > This has a useful page of links on all sorts of Go-related topics. > Well worth a look. > > >> http://www.pandanet.co.jp/English/ >> > > I mentioned KGS; this is another Go server where you can play online > in real time against people from around the world. > > >> Nice linux client here: >> >> http://www.pandanet.co.jp/English/glgo/ >> > > This has always crashed when I've tried it. Not tried it since I ran > Hardy (8.04) though. > > Cofion/Regards, > Neil. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 22:10:08 +0100 > From: Neil Greenwood <neil.greenwood....@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] LVD (maybe) > To: British Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com> > Message-ID: > <fd7a765d0905161410x8b24b2ev9e0f7a212a2f8...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > 2009/5/16 Ian Pascoe <softy.lofty....@btinternet.com>: > >> Hi Al >> >> Ah-ha, ?everything becomes clearer with the right acronym! ?Thanks. >> >> However, still not too sure about things having read the documentation. >> >> Can someone confirm for me please that: >> >> - the disk / partition's metadata is left intact and correctly formatted so >> that a physical drive can be moved between machines without problems - >> presumeing the correct commands are issued to remove the drive from the >> virtual drive; >> > > It's not without problems, but it can be done with a lot of CLI foo. > > IIRC, the main problem is if the 'new' machine also uses LVM and has > the same VG names, it gets rather confused. If the new machine doesn't > use LVM but has it available in the kernel, everything is much less > complicated. > >> and >> >> - when writing to the virtual disc, LVm won't split large files over >> multiple physical partitions / drives unless specifically told to do so? >> > > I don't think you can guarantee this. > > There are various levels in LVM (from memory): > PV physical volumes > VG volume groups > LV logical volumes > > > You create a filesystem on an LV, which has to be in a single VG but > might be split over multiple PVs. So a large file in the LV might end > up with bits written to different PVs (i.e. disk partitions). > > >> Ian >> > > HTH. > Cofion/Regards, > Neil. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 22:49:45 +0100 > From: "Ian Pascoe" <softy.lofty....@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] LVD (maybe) > To: "British Ubuntu Talk" <ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com> > Message-ID: > <bjebidfakagifdckkhilaemmgpaa.softy.lofty....@btinternet.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi Neil > > that answers things nicely. > > >From what you've said I think the watch phrase has got to be once a drive > >has been incorporated into a virtual system by LVM there it should stay. > >Any need to transfer data should be by either network or removeable media. > > This brings me to a further question, sorry! > > Can a LVM virtual drive be mounted by NFS? > > Ian > > -----Original Message----- > From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com > [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Neil Greenwood > Sent: 16 May 2009 22:10 > To: British Ubuntu Talk > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] LVD (maybe) > > > 2009/5/16 Ian Pascoe <softy.lofty....@btinternet.com>: > >> Hi Al >> >> Ah-ha, everything becomes clearer with the right acronym! Thanks. >> >> However, still not too sure about things having read the documentation. >> >> Can someone confirm for me please that: >> >> - the disk / partition's metadata is left intact and correctly formatted so >> that a physical drive can be moved between machines without problems - >> presumeing the correct commands are issued to remove the drive from the >> virtual drive; >> > > It's not without problems, but it can be done with a lot of CLI foo. > > IIRC, the main problem is if the 'new' machine also uses LVM and has > the same VG names, it gets rather confused. If the new machine doesn't > use LVM but has it available in the kernel, everything is much less > complicated. > >> and >> >> - when writing to the virtual disc, LVm won't split large files over >> multiple physical partitions / drives unless specifically told to do so? >> > > I don't think you can guarantee this. > > There are various levels in LVM (from memory): > PV physical volumes > VG volume groups > LV logical volumes > > > You create a filesystem on an LV, which has to be in a single VG but > might be split over multiple PVs. So a large file in the LV might end > up with bits written to different PVs (i.e. disk partitions). > > >> Ian >> > > HTH. > Cofion/Regards, > Neil. > > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
