I want to report a new problem which only arose after the 09.04 upgrade. There is now an annoying rumbling low level noise on the sound whenever anything changes on the display such as a mouse movement. My system has nvidia built in graphics. If there is a more appropriate place to post and details needed then please tell me. Thnx -- Andrew
2009/4/30 <ubuntu-uk-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com> > Send ubuntu-uk mailing list submissions to > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ubuntu-uk-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ubuntu-uk-ow...@lists.ubuntu.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of ubuntu-uk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Bloomin' ATI and Linux.... (Jon Reynolds) > 2. Re: Bloomin' ATI and Linux.... (Chris Rowson) > 3. Re: Bloomin' ATI and Linux.... (Ian Pascoe) > 4. Re: Bloomin' ATI and Linux.... (Chris Rowson) > 5. Re: to upgrade or not (Macbook 3,1 on Ibex) (William Anderson) > 6. Re: Bloomin' ATI and Linux.... (Alan Jenkins) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:46:25 +0100 > From: Jon Reynolds <maill...@jcrdevelopments.com> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bloomin' ATI and Linux.... > To: a...@princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk, British Ubuntu Talk > <ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com> > Message-ID: <49f9d5e1.2090...@jcrdevelopments.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > My Dell D600 Latitude laptop runs an "ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 > [Mobility FireGL 9000]" and I have always suffered with poor > performance. Unfortunately I never get to the bottom of it. I really > should try and get to a LUG meeting one day see if someone who knows > what they are doing can improve it. > > But with 9.04 (well and others I have tried) I always get full compix > effects, wobbly windows etc on the fresh install but it seems almost > straight away to degrade and within the same day I seem to loose the > ability to have any effects. Now (less than a week into a fresh clean > install) I cannot enable any effects. > > Scrolling web pages can get very cumbersome. Just minimising windows can > be a bit slow. > > I seem to be using the vesa driver. I tried the fglrx but it broke...so > I will just leave it as it is for now. > > Jon > > Tony Pursell wrote: > > On 28 Apr 2009 at 11:08, Rob Beard wrote: > >> Seif Attar wrote: > >>> I have a laptop with an ATI 200m xpress video card, I tried upgrading > to > >>> Jaunty, but before the upgrade I got a message the my hardware will not > >>> work on Jaunty (I had mixed feelings of disappointment and happiness > >>> that it actually warned me!), so the fglrx drivers won't work, but how > >>> will this affect me? i don't care much about 3d stuff, so I am willing > >>> to give that up, but will my resolution be correct? and what about XV > >>> video? has anyone here had any experience with this? > >>> > >>> I was shocked that ATI dropped support for this card, as I don't > >>> consider my laptop old (well yeah, I bought it 3 years ago, but i still > >>> think of it as new and up to spec :) > >>> > >>> Peace, > >>> Seif > >>> > >>> > >> From what I understand, it is supported at least for 2D graphics so > >> you'll still be able to use the machine and it should display at the > >> correct resolution but you won't be able to use anything like Compiz so > >> you won't get fancy effects or wobbly windows. > >> > > > > I was a bit worried when the upgrade told me that fglrx wouldn't be > > available for 9.04 - but I still get my wobbly windows, (which is about > > the most sophisticated compiz effect that my ATI Radeon XPress 200 > > grapics will do anyway). > > > > Tony > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:14:21 +0100 > From: Chris Rowson <christopherrow...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bloomin' ATI and Linux.... > To: British Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com> > Message-ID: > <d6c346600904301314y1e2e48fam911df5ce1074d...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > My Dell D600 Latitude laptop runs an "ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 > > [Mobility FireGL 9000]" and I have always suffered with poor > > performance. Unfortunately I never get to the bottom of it. I really > > should try and get to a LUG meeting one day see if someone who knows > > what they are doing can improve it. > > > > But with 9.04 (well and others I have tried) I always get full compix > > effects, wobbly windows etc on the fresh install but it seems almost > > straight away to degrade and within the same day I seem to loose the > > ability to have any effects. Now (less than a week into a fresh clean > > install) I cannot enable any effects. > > > > Scrolling web pages can get very cumbersome. Just minimising windows can > > be a bit slow. > > > > I seem to be using the vesa driver. I tried the fglrx but it broke...so > > I will just leave it as it is for now. > > > > Jon > > > > Hi Jon, > > Just out of interest, have you tried adding the 'CPU Frequency Scaling > Monitor' object to your panel? If not, add it and change the setting to > 'performance'. > > One strange habit I've found that Ubuntu has is that it sets the power > management setting on my laptop (perhaps all laptops?) to 'Powersave' by > default restricting the CPU speed to 800Mhz. > > Chris > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/attachments/20090430/ea1646a8/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 22:18:49 +0100 > From: "Ian Pascoe" <softy.lofty....@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bloomin' ATI and Linux.... > To: "British Ubuntu Talk" <ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com> > Message-ID: > <bjebidfakagifdckkhileedjgoaa.softy.lofty....@btinternet.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi, two quick questions. > > Do you get the same degregation with any other distros you've tried? That > is is it Ubuntu specific or distro wide? > > Secondly, have you tried Dell's own Ubuntu clone to see if that gives you > the performance stability you're after? > > Dependant on your answers, it may then be worth while raising a bug .... > Cheers > > Ian > -----Original Message----- > From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com > [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Chris Rowson > Sent: 30 April 2009 21:14 > To: British Ubuntu Talk > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bloomin' ATI and Linux.... > > > My Dell D600 Latitude laptop runs an "ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 > [Mobility FireGL 9000]" and I have always suffered with poor > performance. Unfortunately I never get to the bottom of it. I really > should try and get to a LUG meeting one day see if someone who knows > what they are doing can improve it. > > But with 9.04 (well and others I have tried) I always get full compix > effects, wobbly windows etc on the fresh install but it seems almost > straight away to degrade and within the same day I seem to loose the > ability to have any effects. Now (less than a week into a fresh clean > install) I cannot enable any effects. > > Scrolling web pages can get very cumbersome. Just minimising windows can > be a bit slow. > > I seem to be using the vesa driver. I tried the fglrx but it broke...so > I will just leave it as it is for now. > > Jon > > > Hi Jon, > > Just out of interest, have you tried adding the 'CPU Frequency Scaling > Monitor' object to your panel? If not, add it and change the setting to > 'performance'. > > One strange habit I've found that Ubuntu has is that it sets the power > management setting on my laptop (perhaps all laptops?) to 'Powersave' by > default restricting the CPU speed to 800Mhz. > > Chris > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/attachments/20090430/fe386c11/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 22:44:59 +0100 > From: Chris Rowson <christopherrow...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bloomin' ATI and Linux.... > To: British Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com> > Message-ID: > <d6c346600904301444h454e971aw112f21027f6aa...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > Hi, two quick questions. > > > > Do you get the same degregation with any other distros you've tried? > That > > is is it Ubuntu specific or distro wide? > > > > Secondly, have you tried Dell's own Ubuntu clone to see if that gives you > > the performance stability you're after? > > > > Dependant on your answers, it may then be worth while raising a bug .... > > Cheers > > > > Ian > > > > Do Dell have an Ubuntu clone that we can download? > > I only ask because I'm also running Ubuntu on a Dell Lattitude with an ATI > card. I wasn't sure whether or not Dell shipped laptops with ATI cards and > Ubuntu. > > Chris > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/attachments/20090430/953f4b74/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:41:43 +0100 > From: William Anderson <ne...@well.com> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] to upgrade or not (Macbook 3,1 on Ibex) > To: British Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com> > Message-ID: <49fa2927.4050...@well.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Chris Weaver wrote: > > I have a Macbook 3.1 and I'm nearly about to press the upgrade button > > (I'm upgrading a test PC to see how it affects sound and Samba in > > particular). I have it dual booting with leopard so I'm perhaps in a > > better position if it goes wrong. I'll report back how it goes. > > I'm curious, what's a Macbook 3.1? I haven't heard a Macbook referred > to like that before. > > -n > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:58:25 +0100 > From: Alan Jenkins <alan.james.jenk...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bloomin' ATI and Linux.... > To: British Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com> > Message-ID: > <839b06a70904301558r1a1c4916yef037e595a9fb...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hey guys, > > I share your frustration with the ATI cards and Linux. I converted my > friends machine over recently to running Ubuntu Jaunty believing that the > ATI drivers had improved and would be nearly on par with the nVidia ones. > And I learned the hard way that that was not the case... we tried to get > World of Warcraft running in Wine and all we managed to get was graphical > distortion. > > Best option really is if you are going to buying a machine avoid ATI like > the plague and go for an nVidia card. It may be worth you guys with desktop > machines buying a cheap nVidia card to save you pulling all your hair out > with the ATI drivers. Unfortunately this is not an option for most laptop > owners (there are some laptops you can change the card in > http://www.mxm-upgrade.com/Table.html check to see if yours is on the > list). > > Anyway hope this helps, > > Alan Jenkins > > 2009/4/30 Chris Rowson <christopherrow...@gmail.com> > > > Hi, two quick questions. > >> > >> Do you get the same degregation with any other distros you've tried? > That > >> is is it Ubuntu specific or distro wide? > >> > >> Secondly, have you tried Dell's own Ubuntu clone to see if that gives > you > >> the performance stability you're after? > >> > >> Dependant on your answers, it may then be worth while raising a bug .... > >> Cheers > >> > >> Ian > >> > > > > Do Dell have an Ubuntu clone that we can download? > > > > I only ask because I'm also running Ubuntu on a Dell Lattitude with an > ATI > > card. I wasn't sure whether or not Dell shipped laptops with ATI cards > and > > Ubuntu. > > > > Chris > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/attachments/20090430/30490427/attachment.htm > > ------------------------------ > > -- > ubuntu-uk mailing list > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > > > End of ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 48, Issue 71 > ***************************************** >
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