On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 17:41 +0100, Seif Attar wrote: > On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 11:59 +0100, Chris Rowson wrote: > > > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Rob Beard <r...@esdelle.co.uk> wrote: > > Seif Attar wrote: > > > I have a laptop with an ATI 200m xpress video card, I tried > > upgrading to > > > Jaunty, but before the upgrade I got a message the my > > hardware will not > > > work on Jaunty (I had mixed feelings of disappointment and > > happiness > > > that it actually warned me!), so the fglrx drivers won't > > work, but how > > > will this affect me? i don't care much about 3d stuff, so I > > am willing > > > to give that up, but will my resolution be correct? and what > > about XV > > > video? has anyone here had any experience with this? > > > > > > I was shocked that ATI dropped support for this card, as > > Imust don't > > > consider my laptop old (well yeah, I boSection 2ught it 3 years > > ago, > > but i still > > > think of it as new and up to spec :) > > > > > > Peace, > > > Seif > > > > > > > > > > > > From what I understand, it is supported at least for 2D > > graphics so > > you'll still be able to use the machine and it should display > > at the > > correct resolution but you won't be able to use anything like > > Compiz so > > you won't get fancy effects or wobbly windows. > > > > I do agree that it's not very good of ATI/AMD to leave their > > customers > > in the lurch like this. I have a couple of ATI graphics cards > > that > > luckily are still supported (just) by the fglrx drivers or by > > the open > > source drivers but I would certainly give it some more thought > > when > > choosing another card. I know NVidia aren't that great for > > support > > (closed source drivers etc) but on the other hand they still > > do have > > drivers which support back to the TNT2 and Geforce 256 cards > > (I have a > > couple of these kicking around still, and even an old Voodoo > > 4). > > > > I personally think that AMD should at least support their > > older cards > > (I'm not expecting all the latest features, just basic > > support) until > > the community can get the open source drivers up to scratch, > > although I > > guess their argument is that they have released the > > documentation to the > > community to assist in writing the drivers (which NVidia on > > the other > > hand haven't done). > > > > Rob > > > > > > I'm using an ATI Radeon X1200 which is supported under the Open Source > > driver. 3D acceleration exists but is a bit rubbish. That said > > however, basic compiz effects do work reasonably well. > > > > I believe your card (like mine) is no longer supported by the > > proprietary fglrx drivers. I'm not sure if it is supported by the Open > > Source ATI drivers, but you pop in a copy of Jaunty and find out ;-) > > > > Chris > > > hehe, I had thought about that, and used the usb creator to create a > jaunty usb disk, only to relaize that the laptop doesn't boot from usb! > will burn a CD once I'm home and post the results. My main concern is Xv > and skype (skype needs XV for the webcam).
OK, so I did some more searching for my card, most people were complaining about compiz not working, and wanting to revert, so, while still running intrepid I followed this (just in case): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/FglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver tried the open source driver in Intrepid, compiz works with minimal effects, Xv video works better than the fglrx (I can now have both compiz and Xv), if I enable wobbly windows, the system freezes when I move them, but I was happy with the result. In fact the open source driver for my needs is better than the fglrx, I didn't have compiz turned on before, because it doesn't work with XV video on fglrx driver for my card (ATI Xpress 200M)! upgraded to jaunty, and (ok, if i have a video playing and I rotate the cube, the video gets messed)now I have compiz (minimal) most effects work for me, even the cube, only noticed wobbly windows freezing the machine. I am happy! :) considering upgrading my mythtv machine, I guess it depends on the weather this weekend! Seif
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