On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 11:56 +0100, John Levin wrote: > > It'd help to see the new users coming along from different backgrounds > > using their fresh eyeballs, too, to examine even more than this - things > > we may have overlooked for years. > > Absolutely. Just watch someone with little experience of the text > editors you get with Joomla or suchlike, and the process for making a > link is really difficult. (I don't use Joomla's editor, prefering to > write html, tags and all. It's quicker, and once you've learnt quite a > small vocabulary, you can get things done.)
Sod that. Let's write a book: 'Getting Nothing Done and Loving IT' :) The thing about Drupal for me was that I wanted to play around with it to see what it could do. I think you're right, that trying to master HTML is the thing to aim for, but it helps if we're aware of some of these tools as wells. > If people > can't play music, watch videos on youtube, ad nauseum, they're not going > to switch. The OS may be fine for what they do locally, but it's useless > if it can't partake in the internet, which is a social network writ > large, with all their friends, family on it. And you can't even begin to > think that someone should change all these social links! I think it's related with so many things. Whenever we close a gap or innovate, we're making the job easier for when people do things like shows, distribute media, etc. It's like the beauty of being able to promote Linux by having a popular app like Firefox to point to. > There are a lot of good, free tools (meaning web apps and services) out > there; the difficulty is finding them, amidst the large numbers of > unsupported, beta and plain crap apps. > Joomla and Wordpress are well-known, and have taglines at the bottom of > most installs, but what of the good but unknown? I remember it taking a > very long time to find a good, simple web-based email-announcement > system (and I found a very good one, Dadamail: http://mojo.skazat.com/ ) > and am currently trying to find a decent web-based cataloguing system. t > should be as simple as searching synaptic or gnome files > http://www.gnomefiles.org/ I don't know about things like that - never had the need - but for planning a site (or just playing around in the sandpit), I've found the combination of: Bluefish - http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/index.html Screem - http://www.screem.org/ FileZilla - http://filezilla.sourceforge.net/ Nautilus - http://www.gnome.org/projects/nautilus/ Vym - http://www.insilmaril.de/vym/ Zim - http://pardus-larus.student.utwente.nl/~pardus/projects/zim/ GIMP - http://www.gimp.org/ and Inkscape - http://www.inkscape.org/ a lot of fun. It makes the whole process enjoyable (it'll still be a shite site, but at least I'm going to enjoy the ride and learn more about the options!). If you can recommend any other tools, all the better. > Right now, I think we have to start small, and simply co-ordinate > amongst ourselves before building vast edifices. That's the way of > building up the crucial quality of trust that you rightly emphasize. Right. I think, as well, that some things we dream of have to wait for the circumstances to make them more realistic and viable. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
