Guys, Can we restrict the use of this mailing list to its original purpose
that is  promoting/localising ubuntu in the UK.  I think its really great
that you are giving help however the forums etc are the place to do it, or
even sending direct email would be better.People will remove themselves from
the list if its not relevant to them.  

Here are two alternatives:

A) Someone set up a technical support mailing list that you can subscribe
to.
B)If you guys prefer I can set up a basic message board as I have loads of
extra bandwidth on my servers.  

Just send me a list of what forum categorys/topics you guys want and I will
be glad to sort it.  

Regards

Geeman

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Today's Topics:

   1.  Configuring grub: how do I determine location of /boot? (David M)
   2. Re:  Configuring grub: how do I determine location of     /boot?
      (Pete Ryland)
   3.  Re: Configuring grub: how do I determine location of     /boot?
      (David M)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 18:48:07 +0100
From: David M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Configuring grub: how do I determine location of
        /boot?
To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
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My system has for a long time been slightly unstable, in that occasionally
it locks up (as far as user input and graphical updates are concerned)
entirely for no apparent reason (although, weirdly, if music, etc, is
playing at the time, it repeatedly loops the last second or so of the sound
that was playing, suggesting that somewhere, deep down, the computer is at
least still partially alive..). I suspect this is due to a probably shonky
motherboard, but I'd like to consider all options..


I've gathered that disabling acpi and/or apic (with the noacpi and noapic
boot options) may increase system stability in some instances, and have read
the GrubHowto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto

However, this contains the fear-inducing phrase:
"If /boot is mounted on another partition and you use update-grub, then you
may run into problems."

("another partition" from *what*, btw?)


Soooo.., how can I find out where /boot actually is?

My system has whatever-is-installed-in-the-MBR installed in the MBR of my
first hard disk (hda) (which otherwise contains Some Other System), but
Ubuntu itself is installed on the second hard disk (hdb).

Thanks for any advice,


David.

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Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 22:39:49 +0100
From: Pete Ryland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Configuring grub: how do I determine location
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On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 06:48:07 +0100, David M wrote:
> (although, weirdly, if music, etc, is playing at the time, it 
> repeatedly loops the last second or so of the sound that was playing, 
> suggesting that somewhere, deep down, the computer is at least still 
> partially alive..)

The audio looping doesn't necessarily mean any software is still running; if
there is stuff in the audio buffer it will do this.  Normally if software is
still running, it will constantly replenish the circular buffer, half at a
time.

> Soooo.., how can I find out where /boot actually is?

Typing:

df /boot

will return something like:

Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda1             75529312  54052356  17640236  76% /

which shows that /boot is part of the /dev/hda1 filesystem that is mounted
on "/".  That is, it is *not* separate to the root partition.

If it says something like:

Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda1             75529312  54052356  17640236  76% /boot

(note the last bit (the numbers here are not realistic))

That means that /boot is on it's own separate partition.

HTH,
Pete



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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 23:43:14 +0100
From: David M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Re: Configuring grub: how do I determine location
        of      /boot?
To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
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Pete Ryland wrote in gmane.linux.ubuntu.user.british
 about: Re: Configuring grub: how do I determine location of /boot? 

> On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 06:48:07 +0100, David M wrote:
>> (although, weirdly, if music, etc, is playing at the time, it 
>> repeatedly loops the last second or so of the sound that was playing, 
>> suggesting that somewhere, deep down, the computer is at least still 
>> partially alive..)
>
> The audio looping doesn't necessarily mean any software is still 
> running; if there is stuff in the audio buffer it will do this.  
> Normally if software is still running, it will constantly replenish 
> the circular buffer, half at a time.

So, it's more the case that the soundcard is happily alive still doing what
it was last told to (and not hearing instructions to the contrary), but the
brain feeding it is pretty much dead? (..he said, rather morbidly)

Nevertheless, with no graphical updates and no acceptance of input in this
state, it's big red switch time regardless.. ;-)


>> Soooo.., how can I find out where /boot actually is?
>
> Typing:
>
> df /boot
>
> will return something like:
>
> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
> /dev/hda1             75529312  54052356  17640236  76% /
>
> which shows that /boot is part of the /dev/hda1 filesystem that is 
> mounted on "/".  That is, it is *not* separate to the root partition.

This is akin to what I get:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ df /boot
Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hdb5               489285    227541    235640  50% /


So, this means my /boot is part of / (which is on hdb5), so I can go ahead
and run update-grub without too much fear.. =:-O


Thanks for your help,


David.

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