El dl 28 de 02 de 2011 a les 09:55 -0500, en/na Shaun McCance va
escriure:
> On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 13:24 +0100, David Planella wrote:
> > El dv 25 de 02 de 2011 a les 15:20 -0500, en/na Shaun McCance va
> > escriure:
> > > Are you referring to the new topic-based help ("Desktop Help")
> > > or the old user guide ("Desktop User Guide")? The default was
> > > changed pretty recently, and I'm not sure what build of Yelp
> > > you're using.
> > >
> >
> > Hey Shaun,
> >
> > I seem to remember it was the new topic-based help. I can no longer see
> > it due to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yelp/+bug/726490
> > (not reported upstream yet, I want to make sure it's not a distro bug
> > first).
>
> That really looks to me like the document isn't installed. What
> version of gnome-user-docs do you have installed?As far as I can tell, gnome-user-docs is not packaged, or at least I could not find a package for it. I've only got the gnome-user-guide installed, which contains the user, ally and admin guides. > Do you have > any .page files under /usr/share/gnome/help/gnome-help/C/ ? > No, I don't have any file there at all. In fact, the gnome-help folder does not exist in /usr/share/gnome/help/ > > Regarding translations, what's the reason for them not being available? > > Can yelp not yet translate them, or are the translatable messages not > > yet exposed for translation, or is there any other reason? > > That's a good question. I'd just assumed it was because nobody > had done any translations yet. But looking at the GNOME l10n > status pages, I don't see gnome-user-docs listed. I'll ping > gnome-i18n and let them know. > Sounds good, thanks. > > > 1) Ubuntu could just ensure that, in every bit of code that > > > wants to display the desktop help, Yelp is called with a URI. > ... > > > 2) Ubuntu could patch Yelp to have a different default URI. > > > I think this is what's been done in the past. It could be a > > > good patch. Or I could make the default document a setting, > > > and it could be a schema patch. It's a patch either way. > ... > > > 3) Yelp could have some desktop detection, and choose the > > > default URI accordingly. There's no standard way to find > > > this information. There've been sporadic xdg-list threads > > > on the topic. It's always shot down. We might be able to > > > do some sort of process or service detection. > > > Thanks a lot for the detailed analysis and for presenting the options. > > Would anyone from the Ubuntu Docs team like to comment on these to bring > > this forward? > > I should also mention (4). I've been working on splitting Yelp's > core document processing into a separate library called libyelp. > At the moment, it's just part of the yelp module, but it will be > split off eventually. > > This is probably not an option for the next release, but going > forward, Ubuntu could build its own help viewer based on libyelp. > A custom viewer could be much more integrated with Unity. It's > conceivable that GNOME might do something similar in the future, > making help feel more like part of the shell than an application. > > To make this seamless to applications, we'll need to decide on > some generic DBus methods to invoke help, and get applications > to start using those instead of execing Yelp. This should go > to freedesktop.org, and we should get other desktops involved. > > -- > Shaun > > > -- David Planella Ubuntu Translations Coordinator www.ubuntu.com / www.davidplanella.wordpress.com www.identi.ca/dplanella / www.twitter.com/dplanella
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