Blueprint changed by Antonio Rosales: Whiteboard changed: --- User Stories --- Frank wants to deploy nginx instead of apache to support a specific requirement he has which cannot but fulfilled bu apache; he's able to use a fully supported solution when using Ubuntu. Toby is a nodejs developer; Ubuntu has the latest and greatest packaged and easily installable. Ante has been deploying varnish for some time; Ubuntu now fully supports varnish so he can stop cutting his own security updates. --- Risks --- Upstream appetite Volatility/release frequency of upstream projects (nodejs specifically). --- Test Plans --- TBC --- Release Note --- [NGINX|nodejs|MongoDB|Varnish] is now in Ubuntu main and will recieved Security Updates from the Ubuntu Security Team. --- Blog Post --- Maybe - --- UDS Discussion --- + --- UDS R+1303 Discussion --- + 1303 Pad: http://pad.ubuntu.com/uds-1303-webscale-packaging-review - Etherpad from UDS session: + Etherpad from UDS session (which one? R): Webscale Packaging Improvements and main promotions * Nginx - Has become de-facto scalable web server, and grown up as an OSS project now - - Bug tracker? Now addressed - - Supporting tooling might need some work to get feature parity with Apache: - - nginxensite/nginxenmod etc.... - - http://nginx.org/en/security_advisories.html - - Better backend support sounds compelling + - Bug tracker? Now addressed + - Supporting tooling might need some work to get feature parity with Apache: + - nginxensite/nginxenmod etc.... + - http://nginx.org/en/security_advisories.html + - Better backend support sounds compelling * Node.js - Gaining popularity fast, and *SHOULD* be a build-dep of OpenStack Horizon - - Also a direct dependency of the new Juju GUI - - Azure tooling - - Openstack Horizon Build Dependency - - RBD's should drive seeding... + - Also a direct dependency of the new Juju GUI + - Azure tooling + - Openstack Horizon Build Dependency + - RBD's should drive seeding... (What's an RBD?) good question + -Package moves too fast to maintain or upload an appropriate version in Ubuntu Main/Supported archive. + -probably better to have node.js in a PPA + -https://launchpad.net/~chris-lea/+archive/node.js + -Other deps are gotten from npm + -reliance on specific node.js versions sounds like the messy world of java dependencies + -A version of nodejs in backports would be better I think than PPA, or supply different versions for the user to decide. + -If the PPA was "official" this may have some of the same effect as backports + -ARM support would be a plus, and have that incluced in the PPA. + + * MongoDB (also headed for main as part of juju) + - Dependency for Go Juju + - Required support for TLS - needs looking at.... + - The license of OpenSSL apparently prevents arbitrary shipping + - There's _apparently_ an exception that allows Ubuntu to ship it + - If that's the case, we should really ship that support. It's a good service we'd be doing to people. + - http://people.gnome.org/~markmc/openssl-and-the-gpl.html + - ceilometer support required this + - Cons: large codebase + - Pros: good upstream development process. + - James Page poked mongodb enough last night to get 2.2.3 into raring, sans SSL support + - 2.4 is headed for inclusion + JamesPage requested a OpenSSL license exception from upstream to resolve this cleanly - * MongoDB (also headed for main as part of juju) - - Dependency for Go Juju - - Required support for TLS - needs looking at.... - - ceilometer support required this - Cons: large codebase - Pros: good upstream development process. + *Nginx + -Ben notes some improvments in reverse proxy over squid + -Ben to volunteer to package Nginx + -code: svn://svn.nginx.org/nginx + + * Varnish (if time) + - Popular heavily used caching. + - More configurable--language based. + -in universe + -Upstream position on Ubuntu packages: https://www.varnish-cache.org/installation/ubuntu + -Does this infer that upstream only supports the latest, and if so how often does that change. + -How does upstream handle their packaging version/updates, bug fixes, how often does it change, and what is supported + http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/varnish + -Consensus was to communicate with upstream on the Ubuntu MIR needs. - * Varnish (if time) - Popular heavily used caching. - More configurable--language based. + *Jboss + -Not trivial to support (for initial packaging, regular maintenance and security) + -Needs some further investigation around a MIR reqest + - only a reduced subset of JBoss is currently in Debian/Ubuntu + - http://wiki.debian.org/JBossPackaging + - receives regular security updates (from RedHat, who surrently supports it. Ie, it has a significant security history) + -This is a large set of work, may need to discuss as its own BP given demand, but open for any volunteers to tackle it :-) + - Note that beyond packaging it, an alternative way to help devs is to provide good install support via juju charms + + Investigate Backports, and Micro Release Exceptions for some of these + fast moving web packages especially when talking about inclusion in the + LTS. -- Others? - - seed prunin. Anything that can be dropped? - - Varnish? + - seed prunin. Anything that can be dropped?
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