short answer:  
Because after installing some packages, my system was malfunctioning with 
substantial breakage of the printing system, I used the synaptic package 
manager to uninstall both Samba and CUPS, then I manually deleted/moved the 
/etc/samba folder to ensure that the configs would be recreated when I 
reinstalled.   

Long answer see below especially item #5.

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as I see it, there are 5 bugs here....

1) There is the design issue with Ubuntu itself.  If you want to achieve
mass adoption of Ubuntu (which it fully deserves) then it MUST be able
to interoperate with MS Windows computers "out of the box".  Currently
it takes a computer expert in order to be able to install and configure
Samba to be able to share printers and files.  That has to change, it
has to be possible for end users with a minimum of skill to be able to
right click on a folder or printer and choose sharing and have it work;
and to be able to do this without installing and configuring any
additional software.

2) Samba is fundamentally broken.  I have now spent *days* searching the
web and reading the docs and trying the example configs and I still
can't get it to work with Windows 98, I keep getting a password prompt
and no matter what I enter it gets rejected.  I did not yet find the
solution to the problem, but I did find other people complaining about
the same problem.  I have tried what some people said should work and it
does not work for me.  Now for comparision, I also have installed Mephis
Linux and pcLinuxOS and I was able to get Samba to work on both of those
computers, Mephis basically worked out of the box, but Samba tended to
crash a lot.  pcLinuxOS took a but of fuss to get it working properly
but once working it doesn't crash the way that Mephis did and it does
work with Win 98.  Those distros are old, Mephis is from about 3 or 4
years ago and pcLinuxOS is from about 2 years ago, Ubuntu on the other
hand has all the latest and greatest versions of software and for the
most part it really is much better than any other of the numerous
distros I've tried.  But this Samba is royally screwed up and does not
work the way it is supposed to.  Now quite possibly I missed installing
some package or other that Samba needs because after all, with the lack
of Ubuntu specific docs on the subject I have had to guess at which
packages I need to install.

3) Installing certain packages causes breakage.  After I installed and
used gsambad and a couple of other packages I could no longer get the
printer configuration dialog (system-config-printer) to run/open it
would crash instead.  This might be related to bug #135321  This is why
I ended up uninstalling Samba and CUPS and starting over.  Which is what
caused bug 5 to occur.

4) (Fit and Finish) The package called "system-config-printer" and the
package called "gnome-cups-manager" both create an identical menu entry
called system/administration/Printer.  These two packages both provide
overlapping but not identical functionality, I found it useful to have
both installed, they should use different names for their menu entries.

5) This is the crash that caused this bug entry to be created, but this
is the least of the problems.  In fact this problem is not likely to
ever occur if the first 3 bugs above are fixed.  The crash is caused
because I uninstalled Samba and then I removed the /etc/samba/smb.conf.
When I reinstalled Samba I expected it to create a pristine new copy of
smb.conf.  Instead what it does is crash during the install -- which by
the way renders Synaptic Package unusable.  Even more strangely is that
when I restored smb.conf from a backup and then reinstalled Samba, it
prompted me and said smb.conf already exists do you want to replace it
with the one from the package maintainer.  I told it yes to replace it,
but after the install was complete I looked at the smb.conf and found
that it was the one I had put there, the file was not replaced despite
asking me if I wanted it to do so.  Happily, reinstalling did fix the
breakage which occurred in bug 3 above.  But I still don't have a
working Samba, although with certain configs I did manage to get XP to
be able to have way tooo much access... major security issues there, but
I still never got Win 98 to be able to talk to it.

By the way, I can access shared folders just fine from another Linux
computer.  This broken folder sharing functionality is specific to
Windows 98.  But none of them will print via Samba, I did ultimately get
printing to work using IPP which is a bypass of Samba.

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Okay, so that is what this bug is about.  As far as I am concerned the
actual crash #5 -- which generated this bug -- is mostly a non-issue,
fix the other bugs and the circumstances that caused the crash is
unlikely to occur.  I am not familiar with your bug tracking system, but
many would split this into 5 separate entires in order to track each
issue separately, on the other hand I've also encountered some very
hostile projects out there -- which shall remain nameless -- who would
complain mightily if I did that.  So I leave it to you to decide what
you want to do with these 5 issues that I have outlined above.

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