On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 19:09:22 +0000 Dave Morley <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 11:03:08 -0800 > Ryein Goddard <[email protected]> wrote: > > > His concern seems valid. Seems like a quality control issue. How > > was this possible? > > > > > > On 12/12/2016 10:39 AM, C de-Avillez wrote: > > > On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 03:45:31 -0500 > > > JMZ <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> On 12/11/2016 07:12 PM, teo teo wrote: > > >> > > >> <snip> > > >>> 2) sticking to an LTS for 2 f***ing years means sticking to > > >>> tremendously obsolete software, usually full of bugs that have > > >>> already been fixed upstream (by the way that is usually already > > >>> true when the ubuntu release is brand new, let alone two years > > >>> later), > > >> <snip> > > >> > > >> I know, someone's going to think, "don't feed the troll". Hear > > >> me out. Teo teo's concerns about LTS are not trollish. Users who > > >> elect to run LTS rather than incremental releases must, at some > > >> point, maintain the system with more current debs which > > >> approximate the incremental upgrades. I always follow the > > >> incremental upgrades, as I'd rather fix a version which is > > >> farther along in development than LTS. I never fully understood > > >> why a individual user would use LTS. LTS is better suited to a > > >> circumstance where uniformity is prized, such as small > > >> businesses, corporations, libraries etc. Teo teo is certainly > > >> right that an LTS plan of action has significant deficits. > > > That might be true (that Teo's concerns may be important). > > > Nevertheless, s/he behaves in a trollish way, and *intentionally* > > > has been evading moderation. > > > > > > S/he is moderated again. > > > > > > I personally do not care if these concerns are valid or not -- I > > > stopped reading her/his comments the moment they went to > > > Trollland. > > > > > > There are many ways of raising an issue. The way s/he does it is > > > not acceptable on the Ubuntu ecosystem. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > ..C.. > > > > > > > > > > The upgrades are tested repeatedly, in particular for LTS releases. > The issue her is you can't take into account every piece of hardware > in the world, or every piece of software. > > We try upgrades with a mix of data and applications, we try from > default install to default install, we try with none default > applications selected as default instead of the default ones, so we > are pretty much covered. > > There are corner cases that we just can't test, for that you report a > bug and it is worked on by developers so it doesn't happen again, the > end. > Oh and upgrades are tested in an automated fashion daily too. -- You Make It, I'll Break It! I Love My Job :) http://www.canonical.com http://www.ubuntu.com
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