John, also note that during these focused testing periods (alpha, beta testing), the images we are testing are the latest daily builds. Sure, now beta1 is old, so if you wanted to do testing today for an image, you should use today's image. At the time we were testing however, it was the daily build. The workflow I follow is to run the development version and keep it up to date with the changes. I will continue to use the programs I normally do in my daily usage, and try out new things over the course of the cycle to look for bugs. I will also do specific calls for testing that focus on a specific package or packages and test those as well. Finally, when it comes time to release an image, I will install and test that image to make sure it's good. Testing the image is mostly about making sure it installs a good working system. The software that comes with or can be installed after is the focus on the day to day testing and running of the development version of ubuntu. Run the development version long enough, and you'll find bugs in things you use or install. Thanks,

Nicholas

On 09/15/2012 08:40 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
Hi John,

there is a thing called regression. Simply put, a minor bug fix then re-opens a load of bugs that were in containment. This also can occur when the devs bring together several bugs into one release. If they were to put out one release per day / per bug..... 12.10 could be expected about the year 2020.

We use the alpha / betas as benchmarks, anything thing that makes things worse is a regression,

I hope that explains things to you, please feel free to ask further questions.

Regards,

Phill.

On 15 September 2012 23:40, John Kim <johnkim.ubu...@gmail.com <mailto:johnkim.ubu...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Hello QA,

    I've been attending school for a few weeks now. I will get my act
    together and continue contributing.

    Anyway, I see that a lot of qa testers are trying out the betas
    and catching some bugs.

    I understand that the daily builds are the latest,
    up-to-the-minute Ubuntu distribution, but why do QA Testers flock
    over to the alphas/betas to go test for them?  Why do they not
    test the latest daily build in such droves?

    Most Ubuntu developers stick to the daily builds to do their dev
    work on it.  To what extent is the daily build useful for the QA
    Tester?

    Thanks, and have a good day!

-- John Kim
    Ubuntu enthusiast
    lookjohn.com <http://lookjohn.com>



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