On 11/23/10, ubuntu-qa-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com <ubuntu-qa-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com> wrote: > Send Ubuntu-qa mailing list submissions to > ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ubuntu-qa-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ubuntu-qa-ow...@lists.ubuntu.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Ubuntu-qa digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Recommendations in the Launchpad Results Tracker (Marc Tardif) > 2. VFD display with Ubuntu (Khairul Aizat Kamarudzzaman) > 3. Ubuntu QA Meeting tomorrow, 17th Nov. at 1700UTC > (Jean-Baptiste Lallement) > 4. Re: How to contribute to Ubuntu (Jean-Baptiste Lallement) > 5. Re: Interpreting test results across test runs (Marc Tardif) > 6. Packages to investigate (Brian Murray) > 7. Natty Desktop Testing / Test cases automation > (Jean-Baptiste Lallement) > 8. Introducing Products (Emmet Hikory) > 9. Re: Introducing Products (Tim Gardner) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 10:21:16 -0500 > From: Marc Tardif <m...@interunion.ca> > Subject: Recommendations in the Launchpad Results Tracker > To: ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: <20101110152116.gd5...@jrrr.montreal> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi folks, > > In order to encourage the community to perform more testing with the advent > of the Launchpad Results Tracker, I was thinking it might be useful to > include the concept of recommendations as popularized by Amazon. So, when > someone has submitted test results for one or more projects, the Tracker > could recommend other projects which might be of interest based on other > people's testing. > > One requirement would be to provide recommendations real time as opposed > to processing the data periodically. So, as soon as a person submits test > results, the recommendations would be updated immediately. The motivation > is that people will be looking at their test results immediately after > submitting them rather than the day after. > > Ultimately, the objective is to hold on to testers and keep them > interested, so your comments and other ideas are most welcome! > > -- > Marc Tardif <marc.tar...@canonical.com> > Freenode: cr3, Jabber: c...@jabber.org > 1024D/72679CAD 09A9 D871 F7C4 A18F AC08 674D 2B73 740C 7267 9CAD > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 15:31:08 +0800 > From: Khairul Aizat Kamarudzzaman <khai...@bis-asiapac.com> > Subject: VFD display with Ubuntu > To: <ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com> > Message-ID: <c9030e3c.9113%khai...@bis-asiapac.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi, > I've try to attach the VFD display to Ubuntu desktop but it doesn?t work. > Could u please suggest to us what brand n model of VFD display is supported > by Ubuntu. We using Ubuntu for our POS system. We manage to configure the > touch screen display + cash drawer and receipt printer. > > It would be great if Canonical can recommend us the hardware suite for Point > of Sales using Ubuntu. > > Could u please check for us either VFD 450e can work with Ubuntu using > serial port since the driver provided is for Windows only? > > > Regards, > > Khairul Aizat Kamarudzzaman > Business Development Manager > khai...@bis-asiapac.com > +6016.205.9950 > www.bis-asiapac.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-qa/attachments/20101112/929cf425/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:20:58 +0100 > From: Jean-Baptiste Lallement <jean-bapti...@ubuntu.com> > Subject: Ubuntu QA Meeting tomorrow, 17th Nov. at 1700UTC > To: ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: <4ce2853a.4030...@ubuntu.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi All, > > Tomorrow, November 17th at 1700UTC, we have our regular quality meeting > at #ubuntu-quality. The agenda will be: > > * review previous action items (all) > * SRU Report -- jibel > * Bugday -- pedro_ > * Blueprints review -- marjo > * Reconsider meeting times again -- jibel > * Update list of people who can edit the channel topic -- fader > * Selection of new chair -- jibel > > If you have more topics you'd like to talk about, add it to the agenda > at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings . > > Thanks and see you all tomorrow. > > -- > Jean-Baptiste > irc: jibel > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:55:23 +0100 > From: Jean-Baptiste Lallement <jean-bapti...@ubuntu.com> > Subject: Re: How to contribute to Ubuntu > To: Hakim Sheriff <hakimsher...@gmail.com> > Cc: ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: <4ce29b5b.9040...@ubuntu.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On 11/13/2010 04:22 AM, Hakim Sheriff wrote: >> Hi, > Welcome Hakim, > >> I was was told I had to send a message with my goals and interests so >> here they are: >> >> I want to help Ubuntu and help it develop because I think it is awesome >> and it is awesome that it is free. >> That's pretty much it. > If not already done, you can read our website [1]. It contains a set of > activities you can perform to help Ubuntu and become an active community > member. > > If you're more interested in QA activities you can read our wiki page > [2] and our website [3]. > > > [1] http://www.ubuntu.com/community/get-involved > [2] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing > [3] http://qa.ubuntu.com/testing/ > > -- > Jean-Baptiste > irc: jibel > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:01:23 -0500 > From: Marc Tardif <m...@interunion.ca> > Subject: Re: Interpreting test results across test runs > To: Zygmunt Krynicki <zygmunt.kryni...@canonical.com> > Cc: ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: <20101116200123.gi2...@jrrr.montreal> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > * Zygmunt Krynicki <zygmunt.kryni...@canonical.com> [2010-11-12 00:02 > +0100]: >> W dniu 03.11.2010 17:22, Marc Tardif pisze: > [snip] >> > My question is: can we make any reasonable assumptions about the tests >> > that were not run? This can be a matter of opinion where one extreme >> > might not make any assumptions at all, whereas another extreme might >> > assume that test results remain the same until proven otherwise. So, >> > I'm calling for your opinions on what you consider is reasonable. >> >> Unless you have reliable information on how to handle such condition in >> the test case meta data *and* can sufficiently guarantee that the >> meda-data is accurate and up-to-date then you should do very little more >> than notify the user that the particular test was not run (or not >> present in the test result data, I don't know how you handle that part). > > I'm not so much concerned about implementation details, so please disregard > any "handling" part. My question is purely conceptual when interpreting > test results across multiple test runs. I'm simply wondering what kind of > assumptions are reasonable in order to represent this information in a way > that matches user expectations. > > Chris Gregan and his team, Massimo in particular, are particularly prone > to this use case where only running a single test should essentially > inherit the results from the previous test run. This is probably a side > effect of having to run manual tests because it's very resources intensive > to run all the tests again. > > In additioni to this use case, I believe that this is actually quite common > when running automated unit tests. For example, if I just run the tests for > a particular module, I think it's perfectly reasonable to assume that all > the other tests still have the same results until proven otherwise, ie > until running the whole test suite again. > > Furthermore, I also think it's helpful to make this assumption that test > results remain the same until proven otherwise when reporting test results. > When I look at a project, I want to see the all the latest test results > even though they might not have all run at the same time. > > -- > Marc Tardif <marc.tar...@canonical.com> > Freenode: cr3, Jabber: c...@jabber.org > 1024D/72679CAD 09A9 D871 F7C4 A18F AC08 674D 2B73 740C 7267 9CAD > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 13:22:22 -0800 > From: Brian Murray <br...@ubuntu.com> > Subject: Packages to investigate > To: Ubuntu QA <ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com>, Ubuntu BugSquad > <ubuntu-bugsq...@lists.ubuntu.com> > Message-ID: <20101122212222.gu7...@murraytwins.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > As we all know there are a lot of packages and bugs to keep track of in > Ubuntu. One idea that occurred to me recently, to help identify > packages in need of triage, was to calculate an average bug heat for the > particular package. I've made a first pass at this using all the > packages in the ubuntu-desktop package set. Here are the top 10 > packages: > > usb-modeswitch-data - median: 764, mode: 1448 > language-pack-gnome-fa-base - median: 408, mode: 408 > language-pack-gnome-pt - median: 318, mode: 318 > couchdb-glib - median: 210, mode: 210 > netbook-meta - median: 145, mode: 408 > pyopenssl - median: 136, mode: 259 > shotwell - median: 124, mode: 6 > appmenu-gtk - median: 122, mode: 408 > gnome-python-extras - median: 114, mode: 3 > telepathy-gabble - median: 104, mode: 49 > > As I ran this last Friday there might be some variance in the numbers. > I'm curious whether or not you think the bug reports for these packages > really need reviewing. > > Thanks, > -- > Brian Murray > Ubuntu Bug Master > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 198 bytes > Desc: Digital signature > Url : > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-qa/attachments/20101122/ed32f2ed/attachment-0001.pgp > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:36:52 +0100 > From: Jean-Baptiste Lallement <jean-bapti...@ubuntu.com> > Subject: Natty Desktop Testing / Test cases automation > To: ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: <4cebc374.9010...@ubuntu.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi all, > > One of the QA goal for Natty is to increase the number of automated test > cases and find cases that are failing. The tests cover the applications > installed by default in Natty, the integration with Unity and the > fallback desktop environment. > > The list of applications installed by default in Natty is available at > [1] We will start by covering applications with priority 1 (highest) but > all the apps installed by default need to be covered. If you want to add > an application that is not in the list and are committed to write a test > case for it then add a new line to the list. > > The priority is also to find test cases which fails when it shouldn't. > There is a set of test cases for the applications available at [2] If > there is no candidate to automation in this list, then be creative and > add one to [3] > > What you need to do: > 1. Choose applications in [1] for which you'd like to write automated tests. > 2. Checkout mago [4] and the associated helper tool magomatic [5]. > 3. Read the fine documentation [6] > 4. When you have automated a test case, commit, push and ask for a > review of your branch. Once reviewed, it will be added to the next run. > 5. The results are published here: > http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/desktop-testing/natty/ > > Don't hesitate to ping me on #ubuntu-testing if you need help with > anything related to this topic. > > Thanks to all of you who have already provided automated tests. > > [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/NattyTestPlan/AppList > [2] http://people.canonical.com/~j-lallement/natty/testcases/ > [3] http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com > [4] lp:mago > [5] lp:magomatic > [6] http://mago.ubuntu.com/ > > > -- > Jean-Baptiste > irc: jibel > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 03:02:02 +0900 > From: Emmet Hikory <per...@ubuntu.com> > Subject: Introducing Products > To: Ubuntu Developer Announcements > <ubuntu-devel-annou...@lists.ubuntu.com> > Cc: Ubuntu Quality Assurance <ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com> > Message-ID: > <aanlktin0msg1mgkbpj=e0xxk02ra3ik_03si=_rae...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > In the testing team, we've been using the concept of "product" for > some time, to better identify the artifacts that capture our > attention, but I am unsure that this concept has been shared with the > wider development community. > > ? ?A product is an image containing some portion of Ubuntu software, > targeted for some specific installation environment, and released > following our release management processes. ?Some examples of our > current products include: > > Ubuntu Desktop Live i386 > Ubuntu Server Alternate amd64 > Kubuntu Desktop Live powerpc > Ubuntu Netbook Preinstalled armel+omap3 > > ? ?In an attempt to better manage our products, and ensure that each > product is well tested and well supported, a more formal means of > tracking products is being established, so that each product must be > deliberately selected by some team willing to commit to the validation > and certification processes, consisting of those who have both the > necessary hardware and familiarity with the software to provide > effective testing; and each product must have a nominated product > manager. > > ? ?Towards that end, each flavour team should consider which > installation targets they wish to support, and identify a product > manager who will be available as a contact for the release team to > provide confirmation of the completion of milestone validations and > release approval for each product. ?Depending on the internal > organisation of any specific flavour team, these product managers > might be part of the development team, part of the testing team, or > part of a management team. ?In all cases, the nominated product > managers should have access to the installation environment towards > which their product is targeted. > > ? ?Those interested in following the specifics of the implementation > are encouraged to subscribe to the relevant specification (1), which > will be used for the tracking of the implementation. > > ? ?I will be contacting each flavour team in the near future to > discuss the available installation targets and the set of products to > be released with Ubuntu 11.04. ?Once complete, the set of images > produced will be limited to only include those for which product > managers have been nominated. > > 1: > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-qa-n-testing-different-architectures > > -- > Emmet HIKORY > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 11:23:04 -0500 > From: Tim Gardner <tim.gard...@canonical.com> > Subject: Re: Introducing Products > To: Emmet Hikory <per...@ubuntu.com> > Cc: ubuntu-devel-disc...@lists.ubuntu.com, Ubuntu Developer > Announcements <ubuntu-devel-annou...@lists.ubuntu.com>, Ubuntu Quality > Assurance <ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com> > Message-ID: <4cebea68.8090...@canonical.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 11/22/2010 01:02 PM, Emmet Hikory wrote: >> In the testing team, we've been using the concept of "product" for >> some time, to better identify the artifacts that capture our >> attention, but I am unsure that this concept has been shared with >> the wider development community. >> >> A product is an image containing some portion of Ubuntu software, >> targeted for some specific installation environment, and released >> following our release management processes. Some examples of our >> current products include: >> >> Ubuntu Desktop Live i386 Ubuntu Server Alternate amd64 Kubuntu >> Desktop Live powerpc Ubuntu Netbook Preinstalled armel+omap3 >> >> In an attempt to better manage our products, and ensure that each >> product is well tested and well supported, a more formal means of >> tracking products is being established, so that each product must be >> deliberately selected by some team willing to commit to the >> validation and certification processes, consisting of those who have >> both the necessary hardware and familiarity with the software to >> provide effective testing; and each product must have a nominated >> product manager. >> >> Towards that end, each flavour team should consider which >> installation targets they wish to support, and identify a product >> manager who will be available as a contact for the release team to >> provide confirmation of the completion of milestone validations and >> release approval for each product. Depending on the internal >> organisation of any specific flavour team, these product managers >> might be part of the development team, part of the testing team, or >> part of a management team. In all cases, the nominated product >> managers should have access to the installation environment towards >> which their product is targeted. >> >> Those interested in following the specifics of the implementation are >> encouraged to subscribe to the relevant specification (1), which will >> be used for the tracking of the implementation. >> >> I will be contacting each flavour team in the near future to discuss >> the available installation targets and the set of products to be >> released with Ubuntu 11.04. Once complete, the set of images >> produced will be limited to only include those for which product >> managers have been nominated. >> >> 1: >> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-qa-n-testing-different-architectures >> >> -- Emmet HIKORY >> > > I like your proposal. In the past, due to the somewhat chaotic ARM > planning process, the kernel team has spent time and energy on ARM > branches for platforms that nobody has actually used. We have since > retired some ARM branches as obsolete and unmaintained. > > rtg > -- > Tim Gardner tim.gard...@canonical.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > -- > Ubuntu-qa mailing list > Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa > > > End of Ubuntu-qa Digest, Vol 37, Issue 3 > **************************************** >
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