Thanks for all your work and faith in the project. I look forward to flashing my M10 to the new images soon!
On Sunday, 16 April 2017 23:06:59 +08 NeoTheThird wrote: > Hey, > > both the Pro 5 and the M10 are very promising candidates to become > official devices, but we can't promise anything yet. The reason why some > devices will only be continued as "legacy devices" is not that we don't > want to support them, it's due to hard- and firmware limitations. Since > the new software is not created yet, we can't be sure... > > Hold on to your device for now, even if it's not a Pro 5 or M10. We will > definitely publish new images for all devices before the end of > Canonicals support in two months! > > All the best, > > Jan > > On 16.04.2017 16:09, Tomas Öqvist wrote: > > Hi, > > could you be a bit more specific about the Pro 5 and the M10? A > > comment to your blog post suggests that the M10 will not get any > > UBports update, or did I misinterpret? What about the Pro 5 also not > > being a 'legacy device', does that mean that my current daily driver > > will get official status or be abandoned? > > > > I totally understand if you won't be able to support all devices out > > there, but I was kind of hoping for the Pro 5 being such capable piece > > of hardware. > > > > Thanks for your effort and of course I am a patreon of this project! > > > > Tomas > > > > söndag 16 april 2017 skrev NeoTheThird <n...@neothethird.de > > > > <mailto:n...@neothethird.de>>: > > > Hi, > > > > > > i can't wipe away your allegations, but i can try to put them in > > > > perspective. > > > > > You have a point there. Ubuntu Touch is very unstable in many areas > > > > and that will have to change. Our target audience are Linux users and > > that won't change for the foreseeable future. If your grandmother > > doesn't know how to bring up a terminal and execute a script to flash > > her device, Ubuntu Touch is not for her. UBports only has a very small > > team of volunteer developers, so marketing to Dorothy Default and Gabe > > Generic does not make sense right now, it would just cause confusion > > and disappointment. It's not feasible to make something for everyone > > without a large team and lots of funding, at least not right now. > > Remember the early days of Android? Then you know what i'm talking > > about. Ubuntu Touch devices being sold to consumers too early is one > > of the reasons why this project did not take off as planned. I agree > > with you there: UT needs *a lot* of polish and testing. Calling, SMS, > > WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS and AGPS, essential apps - those are all on our > > to-do list. We won't get it stable until tomorrow or the day after > > tomorrow. So until it's really really good, we're targeting the nerds. > > > > > About that russian hacker comment: You can't be sure, i could be > > > > lying to your face right now. Remember that UBports was already a > > thing before Canonical ditched Ubuntu Touch. There are devices running > > our images out there right now, so we could already be back-dooring a > > lot of devices, maybe even yours. I like your shirt, btw, but you > > really need to clean your apartment. > > > > > The thing is: It would not make sense to put all the effort of > > > > integrating back-doors in such a niche OS. Vault 7 shows that there > > are back-doors in many Devices at a layer below the Kernel, so why > > would we even bother? Also, it's all free software, so all the code > > (except the hardware enablement blobs that are not written by us but > > by the device manufacturers) can be checked by third parties and the > > risk of getting caught spying on people is pretty high. > > > > > No, seriously, you have a point. We understand that it might be > > > > difficult for many people to put there trust in a project run by some > > random nerds from the Internet. But we're trying to be as transparent > > as possible. All code that ships is open source. We try to answer all > > the questions in our bi-weekly Community Q&A > > (https://blog.ubports.com/2017/04/15/community-qa.html). We share our > > financial details with our Patreon supporters (Except the 10 Million > > rubels we recieve from the KGB each month of course). > > > > > I hope that answers some of your questions. If you have any > > > > suggestions how we can improve transparency and accountability, feel > > free to raise your voice. > > > > > All the best, > > > > > > Jan Sprinz, aka. NeoTheThird, community manager at UBports > > > > > > On 16.04.2017 14:40, Marcin Xc wrote: > > > > > > Money is not enough. I think this project died for the same reason > > > > as Ubuntu Edge did: poor organization and managing skills. Programing > > consist of a few levels. Some people here seem to completely ignored > > them. Someone just wakes up and says "hey, I have an idea: > > convergence" ignoring the very basics that would let the idea grow. > > > > > I wrote it already once: I wouldn't invest a penny in a project > > > > without clean rules. These rules would be: > > > 1. Ringing, reliable phone with sms, offline/google independent > > > > contact synchronization, alarm clock FOR EVERYONE (also my daughter, > > Mother, G-mother, not only for a geek) just like this one: > > http://www.computerbild.de/artikel/cb-News-Handy-Nokia-3310-Remake-1735032 > > 1.html> > > > 1a. testing > > > 2. Bluetooth, wifi, etc, etc > > > 2a testing > > > 3. Additional apps + convergence > > > I would invest in a project like this.^ > > > We should have right from the start a reliable device which would > > > > grow. What happened was development of fully unreliable device. > > > > > I will not invest neither my time nor money in a project developed > > > > by people who wake up and code. Try to use "Activity Tracker" on UT if > > You want to know what I mean. Full respect for a developer... who > > wasted his time because of UT system policies. > > > > > Now if the project is not traded through Canonical brand I'm not > > > > sure if one of You will not be a Russian hacker - doing a perfect work > > but backdooring devices. Or even if not perhaps again through people > > filled with passion but going different ways. Give me the reason to > > support this behaviour? > > > > > How wil You brush aside my allegations? > > > Best regards > > > > > > GTriderXC > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Vincas Dargis <vin...@gmail.com <mailto:vin...@gmail.com>> > > > To: ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net > > > > <mailto:ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2017 10:34 AM > > > Subject: [Ubuntu-phone] Idea: consider crowdfunding UBports project > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I am user of BQ Aquaris E5, which is my actually first ever smart > > > > phone, and I am deeply saddened that Canonical had to > > > > > end Ubuntu Phone project. I am very thankful for them for creating > > > > this awesome, free operating system for smart phones, > > > > > with convergence with Desktop, which I am really not ready to leave > > > > it in the drawer. Big thanks to them! > > > > > I have discovered that UBports project, which is continuing Ubuntu > > > > Phone developing, has Patreon site [0] to collect > > > > > funds for it's development, and for the main goal they set to have > > > > full time developer working on system we love. > > > > > I am encouraging you to consider funding UBports by becoming > > > > patreons to help them continue Ubuntu Phone development. > > > > > There are actually lot's of free software projects and their > > > > supporting organizations that needs our money too, may it > > > > > be Debian and Ubuntu, or maybe Free Software, Document and Linux > > > > Foundations, but these mentioned have already their > > > > > stones set, meanwhile UBports really needs a kickstart (pun > > > > intended? :-) ). > > > > > Thanks for hearing. > > > > > > [0] https://www.patreon.com/ubports/posts > > > > > > -- > > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > > > > <https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-phone> > > > > > Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net > > > > <mailto:ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net> > > > > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > > > > <https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-phone> > > > > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
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