Thanks for that page - I couldn't find it in my searching. It certainly shows a range of kernel versions depending on the underlying OS - and the TBD for Android is I guess the point of contention :)
I'm guessing the minimum of 4.4 for Ubuntu requirement is because of the live kernel updates that was introduced there - hence why I started looking at what the latest android kernel versions were and was surprised/encouraged by the fact they were still running on a 3.x kernel. On 10 January 2017 at 15:08, Fabio Colella <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > you can find the requirements here: https://github.com/ > snapcore/snapd/wiki/Distributions > > Cheers, > Fabio > > On 10 January 2017 at 05:14, Kirk Turner <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks for responding. My phone has only just arrived back in China so I >> still have a day or so before I find out what is happening! >> >> I was really enjoying my phone before it died. But if it isn't going to >> be compatible with snaps then I'm sorely tempted to find something that >> will be so I can tinker with UT in the future. >> >> I guess my question now is what is the base requirements that are needed >> for snaps? Searching through the snaps requirements I can't find this >> anywhere (and perhaps I need to ask on the snapcraft mailing list instead - >> although there was a question back in December basically asking that with >> no reply). However for example Docker lists it's minimum as kernel version >> as 3.10. >> >> The Meizu Pro 5 has a kernel version of 3.10. BQ Aquaris E5 is 3.4, while >> the M10 source is up to 3.18 (as is the LG V20 for example for a newly >> released phone). The interesting thing is something like the Moto G4 is >> rolling out Nougat - but it hasn't updated the kernel version (it is still >> on 3.10) - so that potentially answers my question about whether the >> FlymeOS update coming this year would result in the potential to support >> snaps. >> >> On 10 January 2017 at 01:48, Seth Ciango <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> "Contributions aren't just limited to code. One of the things we've >>> always said from the beginning of Ubuntu is that all contributions are >>> valuable. It's not just the code contributions. The translations and >>> documentation and advocacy and events and asking and answering questions >>> are all valued just as much as code contributions." --Jane Silber >>> >>> Unfortunately for Kirk, getting a straight answer out of Canonical seems >>> impossible right now. I think he and many other people would be content >>> with an honest, "I don't know. We're not certain right now." I hope the >>> communication improves soon. I understand that some people may not be >>> allowed to answer certain questions at the moment. >>> >>> However, Kirk bought a $300+ phone and is wondering if he should keep it >>> or get a refund. So his inquiry is perhaps a little more time sensitive for >>> him, and I'm surprised that no one has responded. >>> >>> Well, Kirk, I have not seen anybody confirm that the Meizu Pro 5 will >>> receive any meaningful updates in the future. It is a beautiful phone, but >>> it may not be fully functional for you and may never become your daily >>> driver. The bluetooth headset functionality does not work. It is fine for >>> listening to music but not for taking calls. If you are ok with that and >>> just want to tinker, then you'll be fine. If you want the phone to replace >>> your current phone as your daily driver, you may want a refund. >>> >>> This bug report will give you more information on the headphone issue: >>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1590844 >>> >>> As you can see, the bug and the contributors have been abandoned and >>> there is no indication that the bug will ever be resolved or even worked on. >>> >>> If the Meizu Pro 5 receives a snap-based distro upgrade, there is a good >>> chance that the bug and many other bugs will be resolved by the newer >>> kernel and newer software. As of right now, it looks like the programmers' >>> hands are tied, and they can not fix such a critical bug. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 6:10 AM, Kirk Turner <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm certainly interested to know what that state will be with the Meizu >>>> Pro 5... as I'm in the interesting position that I might get to choose in >>>> the next few days whether I get a replacement Pro 5 or a refund for mine >>>> which died a month after I bought it. I got a Flyme OS one and it was going >>>> to be my Christmas holiday project converting it to Ubuntu... but it died >>>> before I got the opportunity and so the Christmas project became tracking >>>> the postage back to China. >>>> >>>> I know there is talk about upgrading Flyme OS to be Nougat based this >>>> year - but would that necessarily see kernel upgrades (such that the phone >>>> will be able to run snaps)? >>>> >>>> I guess the related question is from others that have the Pro 5 if I >>>> was just very unlucky or others have had hardware issues? Everything I've >>>> read suggested they a solidly built phone. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Kirk >>>> >>>> On 6 January 2017 at 01:26, Seth Ciango <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Pat, >>>>> >>>>> Could you clarify something that others keep bringing up. Are the >>>>> current BQ and Meizu devices going to be left to wither on the vine when a >>>>> Xenial image is released or will users be able to flash and wipe their >>>>> phones with a new Xenial image? >>>>> >>>>> Is there a current phone on the market that is the target for future >>>>> Xenial development? >>>>> >>>>> Is there a current phone on the market that runs a partially >>>>> functioning Xenial image? >>>>> >>>>> You've probably answered these questions already, but there still >>>>> seems to be some confusion since it sounds like you are saying that ALL >>>>> current Ubuntu phones are End-of-Life and that no new phones currently >>>>> exist. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Seth >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Pat McGowan < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 10:24 AM, <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I would add the Unity8 desktop needs parity with >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the current Unity7 desktop as we are also still planning to use >>>>>>>> Unity8 as the default shell in Ubuntu. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks all for your patience >>>>>>>> Pat >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for the clarity. Those few messages we have had stating the >>>>>>> current logic and plans is all that was needed to keep everyone happy. >>>>>>> If >>>>>>> we understand what is going on then nobody begins to worry about the >>>>>>> silence. Looking forward to every bit of it except having to find the >>>>>>> money >>>>>>> to replace my phone!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just one thing, several people have said the current phones won't >>>>>>> support the snaps but what about the M10 tablet? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> We are working on a reference image for the M10 for development and >>>>>> testing work but this is not intended for "production" use at this point. >>>>>> >>>>>> Pat >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> Gareth >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>>>>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>>>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >> Post to : [email protected] >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >
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