I'm sorry if any of You felt offended. I just wanted to say that I can not 
reproduce it and my knowledge about the batteries seems to be the reason why. 
I'm even pretty sure when I read what You wrote. However I'm not gonna argue 
nor try to explain any more. I have expierience with heavy electric mashines 
that behave every way all of You described. 
I can see every day why. I wrote about it a few weeks ago.
Voltage is not capacity. And capacity is an analog, chemical process, not a 
digital one.
Have a nice day 
Marcin and his happy battery:-)#)      From: Dominik Wnęk <domi...@ode2.com>
 To: 
Cc: Ubuntu-phone <ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net>
 Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 9:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] BQ E4.5 OTA13: battery info seems to be nonsense
   
I think you might consider trying to be a little less patronising. Just because 
you don't have any problems doesn't mean nobody else does and it doesn't 
immediately mean people have been doing horrible things to their batteries. 
After all, this is a consumer device and you're not expected to become an 
expert on battery care to be able to use it for some years. Especially as this 
list is definitely filled with people more tech-savvy than the average.
My phone lasts for days, but the battery indicator is all over the place and 
there's definitely a problem with what it shows. In my case it regularly goes 
from 10% warning to turn off within the space of a minute. It's broken and 
needs to be fixed. My 5yo iPhone lasts for an hour on 1% when power saving mode 
is enabled.
Telling people they should have taken better care of their batteries is 
nonsense and leads nowhere.

Dominik WnękWysłane z mojego iTelefonu
Dnia 07.11.2016 o godz. 14:28 Marcin Xc <gtride...@yahoo.com> napisał(a):


And I don't have any problems. As I once wrote it seems to be because of the 
way You treat Your batteries. Looks for some info in Internet how to treat a 
Li-ion battery so that it lasts for ages. I never had any problems with any 
Li-ion battery. But as I read what some people do with them... do not blame the 
system. As I know what we see on the display is Voltage, not capacity and 
that's your answer.Just tell me what to do to experience Your problems:-) cause 
I really do not see any with two sim cards, on E4.5 and OTA13.
Best regards
Marcin

      From: Matthias Apitz <g...@unixarea.de>
 To: ubuntu-phone <ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net> 
 Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2016 9:47 AM
 Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] BQ E4.5 OTA13: battery info seems to be nonsense
  
El día Sunday, November 06, 2016 a las 09:45:08AM +0100, Matthias Apitz 
escribió:

> 
> Hello,
> 
> The battery info seems to be total nonsense in OTA13. Yesterday I checked
> the battery in my wifes BQ around 10 AM and it showed a horizontal line of 
> many hours
> at level 61%. My wife went to town and I could not reached her around 2 PM.
> The today screen is showing a going down from the level of ~60% to 0% in
> one hour between 11 and 12 AM, while the BQ was unused.
> It's a pity that I did not took a screen yesterday at 10 AM.
> 
> Today morning, around 9 AM, I put in to charge and now it shows a line
> with growing level between 12 AM yesterday until 9 AM today, while it
> was without any energy at all in this hours. 
> 
> I think all the battery problem is not a hardware fault, but a wrong
> "thinking" of the system what the actual charge level is.

to early this morning, I forgot the attachment :-(


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