Both great ideas, definitely something we need to put on the roadmap. On 18/06/2015 10:39, Daniel Wood wrote: > Hi David, > > Would it be possible to add more information about components in to > the documentation? > > The following would be really helpful: > > - An image of the component > - Links to launchpad where working code of the component are stored > > Thanks, > > Dan > > On 18 June 2015 at 09:32, David Callé <dav...@framli.eu > <mailto:dav...@framli.eu>> wrote: > > On 18/06/2015 09:14, Daniel Wood wrote: >> I would like to thank you all for your replies. Its very kind of >> you to take the time to reply. >> >> Nicholas >> I will upgrade my machine to Vivid to see if that helps. I >> assumed that 14.10 would be ok as all the >> documentation states 14.04 onwards. >> >> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-sdk/installing-the-sdk/ >> >> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/apps/qml/tutorials/building-your-first-qml-app/ >> >> I have read the introduction tutorials and followed them. I have >> written a number of apps that are almost complete >> >> The frustration stems from trying to read the Ubuntu SDK >> documentation, where many links are dead and the examples >> incomplete or not working. >> >> When laying out UI elements I normally follow the Qt documentation: >> >> http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtquick-positioning-topic.html >> >> Is there anything similar for Ubuntu? >> >> I get a number of errors when using components such as column and >> row. Its seems you can't use anchors with these >> component and not all Ubuntu components can be placed in a row >> container. >> >> My specific problem that caused my most recent meltdown was >> trying to position a Label and Textfield in a Row below a >> OptionSelector that expands. >> >> OptionSelector {} >> Row{ >> Label{} >> TextField{} >> } >> >> I get errors about using anchors if I use column and row. without >> anchors everything is at the topleft or the label and textfield >> appear above the optionselector. >> The option selector doesn't seem to work when placed in a row. >> >> *David* >> The issues I have with the SDK are as follows: >> >> - No Component Images. I don't understand what the UI components >> are from the description alone and i have to use the UIToolkit >> Gallery to workout which components I want. The UIToolKit gallery >> seems outdated. >> - SDK Links. There are alot of broken links in the documentation >> some that link to an ubuntu page asking the user to file a bug >> report. some link to a 404 on the Qt site. >> - Examples. A number of the example don't work or are incomplete. >> The imports seem to be different to my system. QtQuick 2.4 and >> ubuntu.component 1.2 don't exist, I have updated the SDK. >> - Search function is very limited. Unless you know what you are >> looking for its very difficult to use the search. When searching >> in the 15.04 components some 14.10 information was returned in >> the search. 'Apps QML SDK 15.04' was listed at the top of the >> results but the link went to some 14.10 components. >> >> I understand that I 'just' need to file a bug report for these >> things but when I am trying to work on an app in the hour or so >> that I have free in an evening spending 10 mins filing bugs is >> very disruptive and frustrating. >> >> Empty Pages: >> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/apps/qml/tutorials/how-write-rss-reader/ >> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/apps/qml/tutorials/rss-reader-layout/ >> >> Picker example masks selected text: >> >> https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/apps/qml/sdk-15.04/Ubuntu.Components.Pickers.Picker/ >> > Thanks Daniel, > > I'm aware of the dead links issue and I'm collecting them for a > big fixing campaign, which needs a bit of planning since it also > has to happen in components documentation, directly in project > branches we auto-import daily on the site. > > Regarding empty pages in the QML tutorials section, this is a > recent and temporary annoyance. These tutorials exist in the > chinese version of the site (/zh-cn/ instead of /en/ namespace) > and to workaround a breaking CMS bug, we have to display their > /en/ counterpart as well. AFAIR, the fix for that will land in the > next deployment. > > For anything else, please file bugs, we do look at them. > > David > >> >> *Andrea* >> I will log into IRC today and try to ask some questions during >> the European work day. The trouble is that I work on Ubuntu >> during the evening which is when I need the help. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dan >> >> >> On 17 June 2015 at 22:35, Andrea Bernabei >> <andrea.berna...@canonical.com >> <mailto:andrea.berna...@canonical.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Daniel Wood >> <s.d.wood...@googlemail.com >> <mailto:s.d.wood...@googlemail.com>> wrote: >> >> Where are developers supposed to get support when >> developing Ubuntu touch software? >> >> I am using Ubuntu 14.10 and the most up todate SDK I am >> having an incredibly frustrating time trying to write >> even the simplest of apps. I understand QML, C++ and some >> javascript. I've been writing software using Qt for >> almost 10 years so i thought developing Ubuntu apps would >> be fun. >> >> When i want to find information I go to the Ubuntu SDK >> https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/apps/qml/sdk-15.04/ and >> look through the documentation. The trouble is the >> documentation is lacking any real content and examples. >> Many of the links are dead and simply ask the user to >> file a bug report. >> >> Many of the examples don't work with the latest SDK and >> many start with: >> >> import QtQuick 2.4 >> import Ubuntu.Components 1.2 >> >> These don’t seem to be available in the SDK? >> >> I posted to IRC many times and never got a reply and i >> really don't know where to turn. >> >> Hi Daniel :) >> >> I'm sorry to hear that, #ubuntu-touch and #ubuntu-app-devel >> are usually very active channels, and many canonical >> employees and community members spend a lot of their time >> there trying to help whoever is in need :) >> >> As others have said already, you can also try AskUbuntu if >> you want an alternative platform. If I were you, I'd just >> give IRC another go :) >> >> In the meanwhile, please report more details about your >> problems here :) >> >> In particular, about those imports, they are already >> available in the latest sdk release ;) >> >> >> >> There are probably 1000's of people like myself that are >> eager to get involved with Ubuntu but don't know how to >> get started, can't get the support they need and >> eventually give up. >> >> Where are non-canonical employees supposed to look for >> help / support? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dan >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >> <https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-phone> >> Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net >> <mailto:ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net> >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >> <https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-phone> >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > <https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-phone> > Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net > <mailto:ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net> > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > <https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-phone> > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >
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