Rot is not encryption but good enough for basic privacy for many people especially if you use more than one algorithm with it, (Rot15(rot5(rot666))). I would prefer a full encryption proxy and OTR3/ZRTP though.
On 18 Jul, 2013, at 6:33 AM, Alan Miller <dralanmil...@gmail.com> wrote: > Josh I think you have 3 choices. > > ONE > for SMS you could do unix ROT 13 a few times if you want to keep things > private, although its not really encryption its good enough for most purposes > and trivially easy to implement. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROT13 > > TWO > Alternatively go buy some bladox SMS boards…your SIM plugs into them and then > the whole thing plugs into the phone. > > THREE > OR design an encryption proxy which will work on all unified messages, why > not ? the whole trend is towards unified messaging, nothing stopping you > from SMS encryption by that means. > > > On 18 Jul, 2013, at 6:14 AM, Josh Leverette <coder...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> "Who uses SMS much anyway these days ? Its all IM." >> >> You have no idea how much I wish that were true. For me and my friends >> though, it couldn't be further from the truth. All we use is SMS, >> practically speaking. >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Alan Miller <dralanmil...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Who uses SMS much anyway these days ? Its all IM. >> We used to use small electronic boards from Bladox to encrypt SMS in the >> past but that was before IM and smart phones. >> There is very clear need for some kind of encryption proxy built into >> Ubuntu that could provide point to point encryption. I have always liked >> Phil Zimmermanns ZPHONE and how it worked. It sits in the protocol stack and >> when it detects another ZPHONE it jumps up and opportunistically encrypts >> using ZRTP. >> The key is generated in the media stream and wiped afterwards so no public >> key is needed, just verbal verification of the fingerprint strings. >> >> Two ubuntu phones no matter which service they used would be able to send >> and receive encrypted messages or even audio point to point. >> OTR can easily be implemented as well. >> All that is needed is a way to announce to the world that you are capable of >> encryption and to do that all you need is to transmit a character at the >> beginning of each message and that can used to trigger OTR or ZRTP. >> The fingerprint strings could be brought up to the UI easily enough at the >> top like the battery or Wifi indicators and pulled down to view and verify. >> >> While we are on this topic, could someone get crypto.cat working on ubuntu >> as an app ? >> >> On 18 Jul, 2013, at 3:26 AM, Marius Kotsbak <mar...@kotsbak.com> wrote: >> >>> They have given up individual SMS charging in Norway too. Also the content >>> could be en compressed inside the encryption so that it might not require >>> so many SMS-es. >>> >>> Den 17. juli 2013 21:08 skrev "Gianguido Sorà" <gianguidor...@gmail.com> >>> følgende: >>> Exactly, in the USA there are unlimited SMS but in other countries there >>> aren't. >>> In Italy for example if an operator give 200/month is a great deal. >>> I think that the XMPP approach is more useful, because (almost) free 3G/4G >>> data access is more reliable and easy to use. >>> >>> Il giorno 17/lug/2013 20:57, "Josh Leverette" <coder...@gmail.com> ha >>> scritto: >>> I didn't say linking. Just breaking it up and sending them out. It's the >>> user's choice. Encrypting it won't make it take up more space necessarily. >>> If the user wants to send that many messages, they can. In a number of >>> countries, SMS is unlimited. Here in the United States, all of the >>> companies essentially gave up on charging for each message. It really is >>> absolutely free for the cell company, and once one of them started offering >>> unlimited SMS, none of the others could do any less and be competitive. >>> Doing an XMPP system would work too, but that requires having a data >>> connection, which should always be more expensive than SMS, realistically. >>> I'm fine with it being XMPP, but the advantage of using SMS is that it >>> works even when you barely have any signal, and SMS is dirt cheap compared >>> to data, at least here in the United States. I can't speak about the rest >>> of the world, but SMS as a technology is infinitely cheaper. Whether the >>> company chooses to charge appropriately, that's up to them. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Rasmus Eneman <ras...@eneman.eu> wrote: >>> Linking SMS cost money, you have to pay for every SMS. Also I'm pretty sure >>> you only can link up to 4 SMSes. >>> However an XMPP based service would still be better as key exchange may >>> happen automagically. You have >>> already broken the standard so why continue to use it when you only gets >>> its limitations? >>> >>> >>> 2013/7/17 Josh Leverette <coder...@gmail.com> >>> Also, I don't see why encrypting SMS would be impossible. You don't send >>> encrypted SMS to people who can't decrypt them. Since we're talking about >>> asymmetric encryption anyways, then the only people you could even think of >>> sending encrypted SMS to are people for whom you have a public key. If you >>> don't have a public key for a contact, then obviously you have no method of >>> encrypting a message to them. But, more importantly, you can always break >>> up an SMS into multiple SMS as the need arises, so length isn't an issue as >>> long as the user knows how many messages it will form. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Mike Bybee <mike.by...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Well, SMS obviously can't do GPG due to character limits - however, there >>> are dozens of varieties of secure SMS tools currently on Android. It seems >>> that some variety encryption could be supported by the default client - >>> much like OTR for Pidgin, etc. >>> Not that it should default to it - that would be awful. But that it should >>> be able to have an easy to enable option. >>> >>> There's a lot of people world wide mad about security right now - and if >>> Ubuntu Touch can eventually ship with a good basic set of security options, >>> it will appeal to people who otherwise might have no reason to use it. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Rasmus Eneman <ras...@eneman.eu> wrote: >>> You can't have GPG on SMS as it can't handle that amount of characters. >>> Also it would be stupid >>> as no one can't receive GPG/PGP SMS. If this feature is realy wanted on >>> Ubuntu to Ubuntu >>> then implementing something like iMessage or Hangouts should be done using >>> XMPP and bound >>> to the Ubuntu One account. >>> >>> >>> 2013/7/17 Mike Bybee <mike.by...@gmail.com> >>> Thanks. I think with PRISM and it's various world-wide equivalents, we're >>> all thinking about this. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Josh Leverette <coder...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> I'm still waiting on the actual native email client to be written. Once >>> that happens, adding encryption should be relatively trivial. So, whenever >>> that happens. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Mike Bybee <mike.by...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Are there currently any plans to make sure the ubuntu mail app will support >>> gpg or some other standard - and likewise for SMS? >>> I know right now it just uses webmail, but I'm sure that's not the long >>> term goal >>> >>> -- >>> Thanks, >>> Mike Bybee >>> >>> -- >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>> Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sincerely, >>> Josh >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Thanks, >>> Mike Bybee >>> -- >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>> Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Rasmus Eneman >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Thanks, >>> Mike Bybee >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sincerely, >>> Josh >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Rasmus Eneman >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sincerely, >>> Josh >>> >>> -- >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>> Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>> Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >>> -- >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>> Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> >> -- >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >> Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Sincerely, >> Josh >
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