Does it? It doesn't always. And an email is of equal importance to the main list of threads because you could very well want to reference other emails while composing a new one. I've had to save an email as a draft, return to the main list of emails, and go back to my draft countless times on Android because of the flawed assumption that there is a hierarchy of importance in a place that it should not be.
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 9:02 AM, John Nelson <thatguru...@gmail.com> wrote: > Presumably, to the inbox, which is what happens now on my Android device. > > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Zisu Andrei <matzi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> However, using a page stack, at least on the phone, makes the most sense >>> in my opinion, because it conveys the hierarchy of the email layout well: >> >> >> There is one major flaw I see straightaway and which has been raised many >> times on this thread: you open an email from a notification, you tap the >> back button, where do you go: inbox or back to the notifications? >> >> Zisu Andrei >> >> >> On 25 June 2013 14:37, Michael Spencer <spencers1...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On 06/24/2013 08:35 PM, Josh Leverette wrote: >>> >>> Why do you need a back button at all in the email app? I can actually >>> think of a number of effective implementations that don't require a back >>> button -- not even to return from viewing an email. However, if an app is >>> making such extensive use of the back button, there's nothing stopping the >>> developer from putting their own alternate implementation in. >>> >>> One reasonable option which requires no tabs. >>> >>> >>> I'm no UI designer, so I was mostly just getting ideas from the Android >>> Gmail app, which I like a lot. However, using a page stack, at least on the >>> phone, makes the most sense in my opinion, because it conveys the hierarchy >>> of the email layout well: >>> >>> acco...@server.com >>> Inbox >>> Test Message >>> 2nd Message >>> Drafts >>> Draft Message >>> Sent >>> ... >>> >>> Having a separate tab and using the flat navigation structure doesn't >>> make sense. According to the design documentation, "The user moves between >>> main views of functionality of equal importance." An list of emails and an >>> email don't seem to be equal in importance. >>> >>> In the case of a tablet/desktop version, I would suggest doing something >>> like the Ubuntu UI Toolkit Gallery app does, and have a side bar with a >>> list of messages, and then a main content view. >>> >>> >>> The back button is a crutch in most designs, since there is usually an >>> elegant way to avoid it. Sometimes, the back button is necessary, and >>> that's what it is there for. If the back button is extremely pervasive >>> inside of and necessary to an app, then a persistent toolbar (one that >>> doesn't need to be swiped up) could be used while not at the top of the >>> page stack. >>> >>> >>> Why is it a crutch? According to the design documentation, a deep >>> navigation structure should be used to convey a hierarchy, and is one of >>> the three main navigation structures. >>> >>> >>> >>> *So can we please drop this subject?* Until the day that Ubuntu touch >>> is overrun with back button UIs, the only thing this discussion is getting >>> is old. *75 emails about a back button is just crazy.* Especially when >>> the back button is not going to be used like the one in Android is. >>> >>> >>> I've only been following the last couple emails, but I do think that >>> since the page stack is one of the three main navigation structures, the >>> location and implementation of a back action is quite important. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Michael Spencer - ibeliever.github.io >>> >>> Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own >>> understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy >>> paths. >>> - Proverbs 3:5-6 >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >> Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > -- Sincerely, Josh
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