Hi Josh,
I don't think there's anything wrong with it at all, in fact I think
it's a nice, precise gesture for certain actions. However, I don't think
that it, or any other gesture, solves the core problem that it is not
obvious or easy to navigate backwards form a deep page stack page. The
initial gesture idea I floated at the beginning was essentially a
workaround to avoid changing the OS design. I now personally think the
design needs further thought by the team, not band-aiding with a gesture.
If we work on the assumption that the toolbar is visible by default on
these specific deep pages (the most obvious solution), no gesture is
necessary. The back button would always be visible and would only
require a single tap, it would be much more efficient than what any
gesture could offer. In this scenario a gesture would only add
complexity & novelty.
The risk isn't that gestures are accidentally discovered by old people,
but rather that old people could exit a deep page using a simple &
obvious and direct method, hence the toolbar visibility suggestion.
Could someone else with access to the current OS on a phone confirm that
the back button is only ever shown on deep pages stack pages? The design
spec seems to suggest that.
Thanks!
On 12/06/13 13:19, Josh Leverette wrote:
What's wrong with the Pin to Exit gesture? It will not be accidentally
discovered by old people in all but the most unlikely scenarios, the
toolbar already provides a back option for them, and power users would
benefit from having a faster and perhaps more elegant way to go back.
It's quick and does not require any finger acrobatics, and does not
interfere with any existing gesture.
Sincerely,
Josh
On Jun 12, 2013 7:06 AM, "Sam Bull" <sam.hack...@sent.com
<mailto:sam.hack...@sent.com>> wrote:
On Wed, 2013-06-12 at 10:11 +0100, Lou Greenwood wrote:
> I imagine that the page stack will be a very common view, having to
> swipe up and then stretch and tap, just to go back, could become
> fatiguing. Perhaps once I get my hands on a working set-up my
concerns
> will be unfounded.
Just an observation about the design, but it seems the design is to
avoid needing the back button most of the time. I don't find myself
using the back button very often because of this. For example, the
people lens expands the view when you select a contact, and has a
button
to collapse it again. Another example, in the phone app the header is
used to switch between different pages (phone, contacts and messages).
The design seems to be avoiding using a back button on the most
frequent
scenarios. I'd recommend trying out the phone first, and then see how
often you actually use the back button.
Also, I feel that the short swipe and tap to go back is easier and
faster than just about all the gesture suggestions so far.
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