What would you think about having a library different video and music views depending on what's playing?
Zisu Andrei On 8 March 2013 17:30, Rasmus Eneman <ras...@eneman.eu> wrote: > Combined players never work out that good on music that music players do. > > Movies are consumed in a quite different way and requires a quite > different UI. > > > 2013/3/8 Daniel Holm <d.hol...@gmail.com> > >> I want separated players. That's it. If anyone is willing to create >> support for that, or if everyone likes it I could support it. But I much >> rather have them split. We have a beautiful video player already. Also I'm >> a user who uses separated players, just as you use one. And I get it. Just >> not in my wish list. >> Den 8 mar 2013 13:16 skrev "Joey Jiao" <joey.jia...@gmail.com>: >> >> Why it's just music player. I use mplayer/smplayer on desktop. I believe >>> it should be better multi player? Meanwhile wish it support FM and plugins >>> for all possible multimedia. >>> 在 2013-3-8 下午8:02，"Zisu Andrei" <matzi...@gmail.com>写道： >>> >>>> Uhm... we should probably standardise a mailing list naming convention >>>> across core-apps, which is why I think this should be discussed as a >>>> different email here on the list. >>>> >>>> I suggest starting a bit more abstract then that, based on a few >>>> use-cases and scenarios. This way, by the time you get to designing things, >>>> you have a rough idea of what you should do. >>>> >>>> Zisu Andrei >>>> >>>> >>>> On 8 March 2013 11:57, Daniel Holm <d.hol...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> First, I do think we should move the discussion away from here, so I'm >>>>> off to the teams mail list from now on. I just sent out a mail, which I >>>>> pasted below. >>>>> >>>>> Michael, I agree with you that we should probably be talking now first >>>>> hand and writing it down. See the mail below. >>>>> >>>>> Zisu, agreed. Its better if we try to work together instead of having >>>>> all these different projects. At least in the beginning. Although I might >>>>> say that I want a separated music and video player. But remote things >>>>> sounds nice. Using mod this would be easier. >>>>> >>>>> And about Umedia, I'm thinking about reusing, almost porting, the >>>>> whole thing for this project. But this is a discussion for the team. >>>>> >>>>> Mail: >>>>> Hi everyone and welcome, >>>>> >>>>> I think we should start of my deciding what we want this application >>>>> to be. So I propose that everyone, who'd like, write down what features >>>>> they want, and then we discuss these features and if we all agree with >>>>> therm, create a blueprint and a goal. >>>>> >>>>> Features for the first release is primary focus, but features for >>>>> later versions are welcome too, of course. >>>>> >>>>> What I want the player to do: >>>>> * play music tracks of a diverse container from local device. >>>>> * pause track, and use previous and next track. >>>>> * being able to shuffle >>>>> * Scrabble tracks >>>>> * use slider to move quickly in the track >>>>> * download and show album art automatically. >>>>> * use playlists,create and edit them. >>>>> * sort by artist, album and track >>>>> * sound menu for global management. >>>>> >>>>> These are the features I could imagine for later on : >>>>> * support for upnp >>>>> * for ampache >>>>> * groveshark/spotify. >>>>> * YouTube support >>>>> * lyrics >>>>> >>>>> Please share your ideas and create a base of our development. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Daniel >>>>> Den 8 mar 2013 11:27 skrev "Zisu Andrei" <matzi...@gmail.com>: >>>>> >>>>> Guys, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm really new to QML and am still figuring out a lot of stuff, so my >>>>>>> code is not beautiful.. >>>>>> >>>>>> May I say hold your horses until we find a suitable architecture for >>>>>> both the backend and the frontend? Mybalsamiq should probably do it for >>>>>> both, and we can more easily follow discussions for each over there. >>>>>> >>>>>> For the backend side of things, I quite like mpd side of things >>>>>> rather than plugging in to the low-level gstreamer. We should sketch out >>>>>> a >>>>>> structure for it. >>>>>> >>>>>> For the front-end side of things, I think we should probably wait for >>>>>> Canonical to publish their application and see where we can take it from >>>>>> there, but we can definetely brainstrom until then. >>>>>> >>>>>> I see some nice ideas regarding remote control. We should probably >>>>>> think about integrating controlling something with the phone and maybe >>>>>> having the phone plugged into the tv and allowing it to be controller >>>>>> (maybe a bluetooth keyboard). >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, we need to sort out the level of integration between the Music >>>>>> Player and the Video player. I would quite like to see a very integrated >>>>>> manner. Maybe even have them as one: Player (like VLC). >>>>>> >>>>>> Akash, what do you mean by global control? I'm thinking the same kind >>>>>>> of global media buttons as in the sound indicator, is that what you >>>>>>> mean? >>>>>> >>>>>> Someone asked a really interesting question regarding global control. >>>>>> The way Ubuntu currently doess it is through DBus, displaying play/pause >>>>>> and next track in the Sound menu. However, it seems like they have become >>>>>> more like settings controls in Ubuntu Phone and I am not entirely sure >>>>>> how >>>>>> they will look in 14.04. Maybe someone in Canonical can enlighten us on >>>>>> this issue? My thought on this is, use the same pattern, as it goes >>>>>> nicely >>>>>> with the other menus, like Messeging and the like. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Zisu Andrei >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 8 March 2013 08:43, Michael Zanetti <michael.zane...@canonical.com >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thursday 07 March 2013 21:02:52 Daniel Holm wrote: >>>>>>> > I set up a team on Launchpad: https://launchpad.net/~touchmusicapp >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm not exactly sure what's the process for setting up such >>>>>>> projects, but >>>>>>> seems ok for me. I'll ask Michael Hall if its ok to proceed with >>>>>>> this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think there are some interesting ideas in this thread alread and >>>>>>> we should >>>>>>> start writing them down somewhere to decide what we want/need. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also this thread is growing quite big and I agree that it would make >>>>>>> sense to >>>>>>> move to a separate mailing list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Br, >>>>>>> Michael >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely, >>>>>>> > Daniel Holm >>>>>>> > IT Consultant >>>>>>> > Web Developer >>>>>>> > Student >>>>>>> > d.hol...@gmail.com >>>>>>> > http://www.danielholm.se >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > 2013-03-07 18:41, Diego Sarmentero skrev: >>>>>>> > > On 03/07/2013 02:38 PM, Daniel Holm wrote: >>>>>>> > >> Hi Diego, >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> You are very much welcome to join if you like. >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> I can see that you got pretty far(!) with your UMedia. It looks >>>>>>> good. >>>>>>> > >> The thing that I'm most concerned about is just moving along >>>>>>> Ubuntu's >>>>>>> > >> UI guidelines. But the rest looks pretty much like the features >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> > >> all, that I'd like. >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > Yes, i agree the UI is not the best, i was thinking to redo that >>>>>>> part >>>>>>> > > also, i wasn't happy about the UI/UX >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > >> Would you like to help out? >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > Of course, where is the team to join? >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > >> Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely, >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> Daniel Holm >>>>>>> > >> IT Consultant >>>>>>> > >> Web Developer >>>>>>> > >> Student >>>>>>> > >> d.hol...@gmail.com >>>>>>> > >> http://www.danielholm.se >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> 2013-03-07 18:29, Diego Sarmentero skrev: >>>>>>> > >>> On 03/07/2013 02:22 PM, Sid Payton wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>> Hey Michael, >>>>>>> > >>>> Are you working on a Xbmc remote for Ubuntu Touch? That would >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> > >>>> great. Do you have a API to control XBMC? If so could you >>>>>>> pass me a >>>>>>> > >>>> copy? Thanks. >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> Am 07.03.2013 11:28 schrieb "Michael Zanetti" >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> <michael.zane...@canonical.com <mailto: >>>>>>> michael.zane...@canonical.com>>: >>>>>>> > >>>> Hey Jouni, >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> Would be great to see those. I will most likely port over >>>>>>> > >>>> PlayMee too and >>>>>>> > >>>> could use some great design. Most likely I can reuse most >>>>>>> of it >>>>>>> > >>>> for Xbmcremote >>>>>>> > >>>> too. >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> > >>>> Michael >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> On Thursday 07 March 2013 10:12:03 Jouni Helminen wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>> > Hey guys, >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>> > We've done some nice new designs for a core music app at >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> Canonical - we >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > could share these soon and see if it makes sense to use >>>>>>> them as a >>>>>>> > >>>> > starting point for the UI? >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>> > Thanks >>>>>>> > >>>> > Jouni Helminen >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>> > Lead Designer >>>>>>> > >>>> > Ubuntu Touch >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>> > On Thu Mar 7 02:32:52 2013, Akash wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>> > > As far as global control of the app goes, i think we >>>>>>> could >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> place >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > > something in the sound part of the system services! >>>>>>> > >>>> > > >>>>>>> > >>>> > > On Wednesday, March 6, 2013, Veritatem Ignotam wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>> > > I like where it's going. Good work! >>>>>>> > >>>> > > >>>>>>> > >>>> > > If you decide to go the MPD route, there's a small >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> daemon called >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > > mpdscribble which can do the last.fm < >>>>>>> http://last.fm> >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> <http://last.fm> reporting. >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > > V.I. >>>>>>> > >>>> > > >>>>>>> > >>>> > > On 03/06/2013 08:53 PM, Daniel Holm wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>> > >> Hi, >>>>>>> > >>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >> Lovely! >>>>>>> > >>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >> The code is up, and its quite simple - though it >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> doesn't really >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >> do what I want it to yet.. >>>>>>> > >>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >> I'm studying at the University of Gothenburg full >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> time, and this >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >> app is kind of my free time project between >>>>>>> books and >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> papers to >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >> hand in, so I haven't had the time to submit any >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> images - until now: >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> http://owncloud.danielholm.se/public.php?service=files&t=71d2604924 >>>>>>> > >>>> bd >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >> ad57493165cb4705b554 >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> http://owncloud.danielholm.se/public.php?service=files&t=a057005a81 >>>>>>> > >>>> 3 >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >> 33026810a708842deaed6 >>>>>>> > >>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >> The huge icon is just a place holder for a album >>>>>>> cover. >>>>>>> > >>>> > >> Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely, >>>>>>> > >>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >> Daniel Holm >>>>>>> > >>>> > >> IT Consultant >>>>>>> > >>>> > >> Web Developer >>>>>>> > >>>> > >> Student >>>>>>> > >>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >> d.hol...@gmail.com <mailto:d.hol...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >> http://www.danielholm.se >>>>>>> > >>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >> 2013-03-07 01:43, Akash skrev: >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> Hey, >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> I would love to start contributing on the music >>>>>>> app too! >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> But i'm just wondering, before diving into >>>>>>> actually >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> coding, >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> don't you want to design the UI and get an idea >>>>>>> from the >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> community if it follows the guidelines or not? >>>>>>> Yes we >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> could all >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> download the code and try running it ourselves >>>>>>> to see >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> the UI but >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> i'm just wondering because its going to be >>>>>>> easier to put >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> pictures of the app design :) >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> On Wednesday, March 6, 2013, Daniel Holm wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> Hi again, >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> I've started on the UI and just done some >>>>>>> small >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> stuff. I >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> created this in like two hours. I'm still >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> figuring out a lot >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> of things since I've never coded an app and >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> usually code web. >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> But it's a lot of fun, so we'll see where >>>>>>> it takes. >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> And perhaps it's better to use mpd, which >>>>>>> was >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> said earlier. >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> We'll have to code a cover downloader, >>>>>>> srcobble >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> support and >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> more, though. >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> Anyways, here is my repo: >>>>>>> > >>>> https://launchpad.net/musicapp >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely, >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> Daniel Holm >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> IT Consultant >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> Web Developer >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> Student >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> d.hol...@gmail.com <mailto:d.hol...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> http://www.danielholm.se >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> Den mån 4 mar 2013 23:39:04 skrev Daniel >>>>>>> Holm: >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> Hi again, >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> I've started to code on this >>>>>>> application now. >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> I don't >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> know if I should >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> set up a separate project on Launchpad, >>>>>>> or what? >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> It's just a little piece of the UI, but >>>>>>> hey - >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> it's a >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> start ;) >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> I'd like some pointers since this is my >>>>>>> first >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> application. >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely, >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> Daniel Holm >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> IT Consultant >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> Web Developer >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> Student >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> d.hol...@gmail.com <mailto:d.hol...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> http://www.danielholm.se >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> Den mån 4 mar 2013 20:13:11 skrev >>>>>>> Daniel Holm: >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> Hi again, >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> What a response! Wonderful! >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> I was thinking of Rhythmbox since >>>>>>> its >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> bundled with >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> Ubuntu as default. >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> And you'll have the same playlists, >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> settings for eg. >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> Last.fm and such >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> things. >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> I'd love to see this becoming the >>>>>>> default >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> music app >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> in Ubuntu Touch, >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> and I'd gladly share the work with >>>>>>> anyone >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> wanting to >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> join. >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> I'll try to create a UI demo in Qt >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> Creator later >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> this week, so I can >>>>>>> > >>>> > > >>>>>>> > >>>> > > -- >>>>>>> > >>>> > > Adrenaline Junkie >>>>>>> > >>>> >>>>>>> > >>>> -- >>>>>>> > >>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>>>>>> > >>>> <https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-phone> >>>>>>> > >>>> Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net >>>>>>> > >>>> <mailto:ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net> >>>>>>> > >>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>>>>>> > >>>> <https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-phone> >>>>>>> > >>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>> Hi, some time ago i started a project intended to do a Music >>>>>>> App to >>>>>>> > >>> run on the desktop and the phone: >>>>>>> > >>> https://github.com/saruneko/UMedia >>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>> You can see some videos of the app working here: >>>>>>> > >>> http://www.saruneko.org/umedia >>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>> I don't know if you were considering something like that, i >>>>>>> haven't >>>>>>> > >>> add some code to that lately because i was busy with other >>>>>>> stuff, >>>>>>> > >>> but let me know if that could be of any use. >>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>> > >>> Regards! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>>>>>> Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net >>>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>>>>> Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net >>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>>> Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net >>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>> >>>> >> -- >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >> Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> > > > -- > Rasmus Eneman > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >
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