On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:10:53AM -0400, [email protected] wrote: >>On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:03:52PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: >>> Today in my backscroll I see: >>> >>> [15:13:58] <fabrice_sp> shadeslayer, what do you want? >>[...] >>> [15:29:16] <shadeslayer> fabrice_sp: that package was sponsored by >>> maco in #kubuntu-devel :P >>Sorry, maybe I'm being dense, but which part exactly is offensive? > The part where someone is told because the package name starts with q, > #ubuntu-motu is the wrong channel.
I'm terribly sorry, but I don't see it. It's not that I don't understand or acknowledge the problem, I just don't see the problem manifested in the original conversation. Surely, it can't just be this: [15:28:46] <fabrice_sp> if you are more interested in K packages, you could connect to kubuntu channels is it? If it is, let me offer a different perspective: I see Fabrice providing a friendly pointer to a forum where the other party might get more qualified, focused help by simply pointing out that this other forum exists. Nothing more. He's not telling anyone to go away, that they're off-topic, that they're not welcome, or that they're acting inappropriately. If people want to talk about working on server stuff, it's much more likely to catch my attention in #ubuntu-server, or if someone wants to work on virtualisation stuff, I'm much more likely to notice it in #ubuntu-virt, but if I should happen to see anyone ask about it in #ubuntu-motu, I'm happy to help them there as well. These other channels /do/ exist. Are /you/ saying people are not welcome /there/? I'll readily admit I haven't looked up the conversation in my logs, so there may be more context, but given the part you quoted, I really don't see the problem. Sorry. > This may seem over sensitive to you, but recently someone was turned > down for MOTU because they work on KDE packages and this sort of > pushing away people focused on one part of Universe only reinforces > the problem. This is not isolated to people working on KDE stuff. With the advent of more and more package sets, people are more likely to get granted upload privs to those rather than getting full MOTU or core-dev, since (at least I'm reasonably sure this is the case) being interested in working on a limited set of more or less related packages is more common than being interested in working on all sorts of completely random stuff. -- Soren Hansen Ubuntu Developer http://www.ubuntu.com/
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