Michael this is my last attempt trying to get you to understand that I'm
not in it for money. Its a hobby/service and all advertisements on the
site are strickly promotional (exchanges)... There isn't one thing on the
site making me anything... You must be a business man since that is the
only thing you see..

You still believe that "I" am selling these computers... I'm not... Anyone
can, thats the point...

I'm sorry that I created something for everyone to benefit from and not
only help "spread the word" about linux but actually help get Ubuntu/Linux
in peoples homes. It also helps others make some extra cash who have a
talent and find pleasure in setting up machines with linux.

Lets see, I'm helping spread opensource, I'm spreading the word about
ubuntu, I'm giving everyone a venue to buy a linux computer, I'm giving
everyone a place to sell/showcase their work... and I'm doing it all for
free... If thats not in the spirit of opensource then I'm not sure what
is.

And don't give me that but..... you plan to make money someday off the
site..  Is linux free? Yes. Does linux make money?  Of course it does!

Linux, opensource, GPL does not mean "You must make no money!" Its about
freedom not just about free (non profit).

If I ever decide to make some money off of Buntfu it will be through paid
advertising not fees or commissions from users.

Good Grief

> Ronnie,
>
> You certainly are correct in your statement that many sites are breaking
> Canonical's trademark. My LoCo is doing it with our blog at
> http://alabamaubuntu.org. BUT there is a big difference between your site
> and my site.
>
> I am NOT trying to make money off of the site. I am, in fact, sticking to
> the community spirit of Ubuntu and spreading the message. If Canonical
> came
> to me and asked (or told) me to change the name, then I would. I certainly
> would not take it to an official Ubuntu channel and degrade the members
> because of the actions that Canonical took against me.
>
> I wish you well in your endeavors, but I will not use your service because
> of the actions that you have brought to this list. Like Jeremy said, had
> you
> taken a different tact, you could have avoided a lot of misunderstanding
> and
> probably not made such a bad name for yourself or your business.
>
> Michael Ramm
>
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> Ubuntu User #16666 | Linux User #451972
>
> On 3/11/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> yes they made me change my original name which was ourbuntu. They were
>> very enthused that I created this site but that the buntu part of my
>> site
>> name was on of their trademarks and that they could not grant permission
>> since the policy clearly states they will not do so for commercial type
>> sites..
>>
>> I kept it similar to ubuntu not because of trying to steal or confuse
>> but
>> simply because the site is more focused on ubuntu computers rather than
>> just general linux systems... I wanted that to be clear from the door.
>>
>> I did this because I believe in ubuntu, I also believe if new users are
>> going to be looking for linux machines they will want an ubuntu machine
>> first.
>>
>> There are a massive amount of sites on the internet that break Ubuntu's
>> trademark policy just with their domain names... no site can have ubuntu
>> or buntu in their site name and make money off of their website or
>> business.. Yet this is done constantly but individuals sooo i'm not
>> quite
>> sure why i'm catching so much heat.
>>
>> just one of the thousands examples of this is http://www.ubuntugeek.com/
>>
>>
>> sincerely,
>> ronnie
>>
>> >
>> > tis 2008-03-11 klockan 09:19 -0600 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>>
>> >> I'm just having trouble understand why individuals can't have
>> projects
>> >> or
>> >> hobby sites anymore why does it always have to be about
>> professionalism
>> >> and business... just strikes me as strange
>> >>
>> >> Its a small auction site for anyone who wants to sell linux machines
>> >> preferrably Ubuntu machines... and nothing more... Its my
>> project/hobby
>> >> site... I enjoy having such a project/hobby
>> >>
>> >> I am sorry I'm not a big business I'm just a guy with a lil site..
>> >>
>> >> If you miss or want big business back in your life that bad i'm sure
>> MS
>> >> has a chair (or straight jacket) waiting for you.
>> >>
>> >
>>
>> > Well, the problem as I see it isn't that you have built a little
>> > business around ubuntu - I think that's a great thing! What I do not
>> > like, on the other hand, is the way you use the ubuntu graphics and
>> > slogans/texts on your site. It feels very much like I'm stepping into
>> a
>> > canonlical-shop.
>> >
>> > Have you even talked to any of the ubuntu-teams, or canonical iteslf?
>> >
>> > Gasten
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
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