Hi, Adding Joey to cc (Joey, see below: please pass on if appropriate).
I tend to agree. Having a new, different slogan on the back of the ladies t-shirt seems to be singling out a particular type of user. And given that the idea behind the original slogan was that Ubuntu makes linux easier for a category of people (human beings) who are less able than geeks to understand technology, it's easy to see how people might get the impression (however unintentional) that the new slogan attempts to suggest that women are less able than other types of human beings. On a related note, if new slogans are going to be developed (although I don't know how much this new slogan is intended to be used in other fields, I suspect not), it would be pretty cool to involve the community in such discussions so that their ideas and objections like this could be taken into account. Given that Ubuntu is a community-driven distro, I think that it would be justified to involve the community in that sort of discussion: the marketing list would probably be the most appropriate place. -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF On 20/08/07, Sarah Hobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hey all, > > No idea who's behind this marketing decision, but... > > http://perkypants.org/blog/2007/08/20/linux-for-ladies/ > > As discussed in #debian-women earlier...does that mean that ladies are > no longer human beings now? > > [19:15] <seanius> i'll defer to the "ladies" on whether it is or not, > but i would read that line as "because normal linux is too hard for ladies" > [19:18] <liw> hmm... that'd imply that ubuntu's "linux for human beings" > implies normal linux is too hard for humans? > [19:19] <Sharrow> That and the men's shirt says "linux for human beings" > implying that ladies are some weird subset with these odd sticky out bits. > [19:24] <Baby> yup, saw it, it really sucks > <snip> > [19:26] <Baby> well, we're not human beings anymore. I guess :) > [19:26] <Baby> according to Ubuntu at least :P > > > This is important, as it seems to be (unintentionally, i'm sure) > offending half of the world's population, and so therefore half of the > possible candidates who may end up using Ubuntu. > > It's food for thought, at least - please CC the relevant people beyond > this mailing list. > > Hobbsee > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFGyYcN7/o1b30rzoURArxlAJ9Tg+7HFApn6hkyiDTzQmaAitFBAgCfcfvw > iINED/eBd57zzch/udUGE/A= > =ajDo > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > ubuntu-marketing mailing list > [email protected] > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing > -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list [email protected] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
