On 03/23/2010 04:37 PM, Amarendra Kumar wrote:
Great post Ram.
I have been mulling over such issues recently. And similarly, I like
Ubuntu but I used to love Ubuntu. Some changes have happened that I
personally don't like and it's bound to happen in case of such a huge
user base distro. But things like moving widgets to the left side is
something I find weird as most of the users are windows migrants like
me and left side widgets are painful too (I tried it on my friends Mac
for long enough to be sure).
I am triple booting Vista (for stuffs like Counter Strike etc.),
Fedora (used seldom, didn't like actually) and Ubuntu is my main OS. I
have planning on an Ubuntu alternative myself especially in case I
have top ditch it seeing the growing control over it. I had chosen
Arch Linux for that purpose which is included in Ram's list.
So I will replace Fedora partition ===> Arch Linux.
I don't know why but I have this strong feeling that I may convert to
Mac once I can afford one :P
hacked mac is available for PC ( Intel Hardware )
OSx86 see .....................http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSx86
have a look at this for more details ......http://ihackintosh.org/ideneb
;-)
After all if I have to go for closed open source why not go for a
better and solid closed closed source.
These developments made one thing clear - I am not going to be a
complete one-OS convert , not at least in near future. Options are
always good.
Somebody once rightly said in an IRC channel: " don't stick to one
distro for long, you will lose the thrill". I am loosing it :)
Cheers!!
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Ashutosh Rishi Ranjan
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> So not debating the specifics of Mark Shuttleworth's comments
and the reactions
> and the interpretations, I am getting an uneasy feeling. That
maybe just maybe
> we are becoming Ubuntu dependent and too complacent.
>
> I can walk blindfolded through a typical Ubuntu install and its
subsequent
> setup of additional programmes, tweaking programmes to work like
they should
> for me. Knowing what repos to add to get exactly what software
and where to
> source software (tuxwire, zyware).
>
> I cannot be happier with what i have. But what if we need to
move to a freer
> system. Are there any other distro's out there. Sure there are
600 plus many
> of them with a passionate user base and with its attendant problem.
Ubuntu has gone far from being a typical linux distro and its because
of canonical. Ubuntu is now capable of challenging the macintosh and
windows in their own game as a proper all-level consumer product.
Getting its own music-store, thats an amazing feat (and its possible
because of Canonical). Free and open source softwares are good. But in
the main OS battlefield you cannot place your linux OS without a
strong dedicated company (which will steer the advertising and
management) backing it. Of course, the linux OS can be amazing in
functioning, but thats it. It won't create much of an impact on
'everyone'.
Canonical can rightfully guide ubuntu (and its amazing that they do it
as saints). Because ubuntu is getting so popular, its essential for
ubuntu to have Canonical securing its interests. The final decision to
what appears in ubuntu is Canonical's decision and they really have to
base their decision (now) on the fact that ubuntu is being eyed as a
fierce competitor to mac and windows (even though there are other good
linux OS, Ubuntu has entered the consumer stream more deeply). A good
proof of this happening is that all the major softwares when available
for download focus on ubuntu as a major consumer linux OS.
I love Ubuntu because frankly till now I have had no objections to
Canonical's decisions. I weigh their decisions in terms of its effect
on new users not me because I know that the decision won't really
affect me because I can choose what I want after installing the
default. Canonical does not enforce but merely makes their decisions
idiot-proof.
> My questions are how would people feel about trying out a distro
other than
> Ubuntu (specially first time users), in fact have first time
linux Ubuntu users
> tried other distro's and what do they feel.
>
> I started of with fedora 1 and went through a variety and can
make another
> distro do to my bidding.
I tried fedora. Found it not much different from my experience on
ubuntu. Even though Ubuntu is moving to be more idiot-proof, it has
definitely not left behind the powerhouse of linux like what fedora
has. This is the best thing I like about ubuntu. You can team up
old-school and new-school. Plus, I found ubuntu's development and
package managers more better.
Another distro I tried was Archos. Its brilliant! and fun. You can
build your own OS based on your choice. I ruined my OS :P
> My other question is how many of us dual boot a second linux OS
and is your
> secondary OS as well set as your primary, are you comfortable
with it, under
> all conditions.
I had windows, ubuntu, fedora on the same computer. For some time I
used fedora more than Ubuntu to see whether I should keep it.
Eventually after a month I removed fedora from my main computer and
gave its space to Ubuntu. Though I have had mad varieties on linux OS
on my laptop. Currently I have Lucid beta1, Ubuntu karmic server and
archos. I use archos mainly.
> My 3rd question is what would you suggest people try as a fall
back option in
> case people want to try and alternative.
>
> My suggestions are Pardus, Mandriva, OpenSuse, Fedora, Knoppix
> Others have suggested Arch Linux
I would suggest Fedora and so would Linus Torvald :)
> The few times in the recent past when i tried another distro i
very quickly
> reverted back to Ubuntu, since i was uncomfortable around my
system but now i
> think its worth exploring an alternative in great earnest.
>
> look forward to reactions
>
> ram
>
For me, I go with the fact that at the end of the day, "Ubuntu is just
linux OS with different packages than other OS, apt-get can get you
anywhere."
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