Hello. I'm a Debian developer, and contribute to Ubuntu only indirectly: by my contributions to Debian being automatically pulled into Ubuntu. But since Ubuntu has more users than Debian, most of MY users use the Ubuntu packages. So I'd like to talk about improving the links between the two projects. In particular:
1. Debian and Ubuntu both have separate bug trackers. But for most Ubuntu packages, there's no "Ubuntu" maintainer: there's just the indirect one from Debian. In this case (which is most packages), it's unhelpful for the Ubuntu bug tracker to exist as a separate thing. If it must exist as a separate thing, those bugs should be forwarded automatically to the Debian bug tracker. And updates (including status updates) should be ingested back into the Ubuntu tracker. For my packages I do try to manually look at the Ubuntu bug reports, but I have no rights to close those bugs on launchpad. Probably I can sign up somewhere, but as the DEBIAN developer, I shouldn't need to do that. 2. As I just discovered, when Ubuntu rebuilds the archive for a release, packages that FTBFS are silently dropped. There's no bug report on either of the two bug trackers. I'm upstream for a project that has been excluded from 24.04 because of this gap in the process. There really should be a bug report filed, so that the problem can be fixed before the release (what Debian does for their releases). And this should be filed on the Debian bug tracker, if that's where the maintenance happens. I don't know how hard the above is, but the current situation isn't great for either of us. Related question: is there any way to get my packages included into some sort of noble "updates", or something like that? I'm looking at the "mrcal" source package that had an ininteresting FTBFS bug due to some dependency changing its interface. There was a Debian bug report filed and quickly fixed, but this happened too late for noble: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1067398 The fix is to update the "mrbuild" package to at least 1.9. Is it possible to get an updated "mrbuild" and "mrcal" into 24.04? If I'm misinterpreting what's going on, please let me know. Right now I see this: dima@shorty:~$ rmadison -u ubuntu mrbuild | grep noble mrbuild | 1.8-1 | noble/universe | source, all dima@shorty:~$ rmadison -u ubuntu libmrcal-dev | grep noble libmrcal-dev | 2.4.1-1build1 | noble-proposed/universe | arm64, ppc64el, riscv64 The latest mrcal IS 2.4.1, but here it's in "noble-proposed" and not for amd64 for some reason. Thanks. -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel