I have been playing whack-a-mole trying to fix usage of those two commands in all the places. It will be a painful and long process, not only because we need to merge changes from Debian, but because we have Ubuntu-specific deltas that use those commands all over the place as well.
I agree that it is unnecessary transition to be done for Jammy. We can choose to schedule this transition after Debian in a post Jammy release. It is in no way an expression of opinion about this transition, purely a choice to coordinate timing of it with our release schedules. +1 from me please go ahead, I was contemplating to propose the same myself. -- Regards, Dimitri. On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 12:53 PM Robie Basak <robie.ba...@ubuntu.com> wrote: > > You may be aware of a couple of recent changes in debianutils in Debian: > > 1. The "tempfile" command has been removed. > > 2. The "which" command now prints a deprecation warning on every > invocation. > > These have ramifications across the archive, and also outside the > archive, as everything that relies on these commands need adjusting. > > This kind of big change is being done in the right place in Debian's > release cycle - shortly after a release. But for Ubuntu, it's the > opposite - we're a few months away from an LTS release. > > Risk 1: before everything is settled, we release an LTS that is > unpolished with regards to these changes. > > Risk 2: the changes may prove unpopular with users. Given that these are > deprecations coming from Debian, it seems odd for Ubuntu users to face > this ahead of Debian and without appearing in our interim releases > first. Debian may end up applying mitigations for specific affected user > stories but we would be stuck with the behaviour defined at our LTS > release time. > > Proposal: we revert these two changes in an Ubuntu delta on the > debianutils package, and reconsider syncing back with Debian _after_ > Jammy is released. > > Then Debian can lead the way, and we won't get additional work ensuring > that there are no user-facing warts ahead of Debian's schedule. > > Any objections to an upload to debianutils in Ubuntu reverting these two > changes? > > Robie > -- > ubuntu-devel mailing list > ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
