On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 11:40:34 AM Oliver Grawert wrote: > hi, > > On Di, 2013-06-18 at 01:34 +0200, Matthias Klumpp wrote: > > 2013/6/18 Jono Bacon <[email protected]>: > > > I fully understand if you don't want to work on this problem, and I also > > > fully understand if the KWin maintainer is uninterested in solving this > > > problem and would prefer to focus on Wayland, but we are doing our best > > > to > > > be as open and collaborative as possible here, given the original points > > > raised in Jonathan's email. > > > > > > I see this as a trade-off. > > > > Fair point. But you can not expect KDE or GNOME to suddenly jump on > > the Mir train. Supporting a new display server is pretty damn hard, it > > took a lot of time to > > clean up all the code to abstract X dependencies and make the switch > > to a non-X displayserver possible. But after that is done, maintaining > > a new display server backend is still not easy. > > it is funny that everyone seems to assume here that anyone expects > upstream to do the work. all that happened in this thread was an offer > for conversation with upstream to define the requirements, nothing > more ... > > weather an Ubuntu community person or team or an external team (imagine > mint would want to ship with a Mir enabled KDE as an interesting > experiment or some such) might ever want to write any code is not > relevant for what was discussed in the thread. all there was, was an > offer/request for communication to have the Mir upstreams get an idea > about the requirements which could then be put on a Wiki page so > potential porters would have something to work along... > > i find it a pretty poor picture that a desktop flavour team is not even > willing to answer/ask questions and invest the 15-30 min such a call > might take ... > > all i see in this thread is canonical giving offers and complete refusal > from the other side with pointers to some totally unfounded claims about > potential bugs unity might have caused in mesa in the past ... > > as a member of this community that goes into his 9th year with Ubuntu > and who who knows most of the participants in person, i must say I'm > extremely shocked and disappointed by the attitude coming from the > community people i used to admire so much and that i usually know as > pretty rational people ...
Generally when I find myself at odds with a number of people who I generally consider pretty rationale people it causes me to go back and reconsider if maybe I've missed something in formulating my perspective on an issue. Scott K -- ubuntu-devel mailing list [email protected] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
