On Monday, June 17, 2013 09:52:49 PM Oliver Ries wrote: > On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Scott Kitterman <[email protected]>wrote: > > On Friday, June 14, 2013 11:09:25 AM Oliver Ries wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > in addition to that I just want to highlight, that Jono and I are > > > working > > > on creating a forum for all interested Mir stakeholders (e.g. flavors, > > > > but > > > > > also ISVs and others) to discuss such issues and drive alignment. > > > > > > We hope to have an update on that next week. > > > > OK. > > > > See this is part of the problem. I don't WANT to be a Mir stakeholder. I > > want to focus my Kubuntu work on packaging KDE and making it work well. > > Historically, one of the great things about Kubuntu has been that we could > > rely on the work of the X team to give us a great display system with up > > to > > date hardware support that we didn't have to worry about. > > with that I take that your concerns would be addressed if there was kwin > support in Mir. > > I think Ubuntu as an OS platform for KUbuntu is interested in working with > you on that. The conflict that needs to be solved is between your upstream > (kwin) and the OS platform. From what I understand from this thread is that > the main concern there (leaving any ideological or political motivation > aside) is having to support a single distribution solution, which > admittedly is fair in a world of limited resources.
In addition to limited resources for development, it'd be something that upstream is completely unable to test. > My team is committed to not lock out any *buntu flavor but provide you with > all means to still run on Ubuntu as an OS platform once Mir is an integral > part of that (which is why I am referring to you as a stakeholder at least > for the transition period). > > As mentioned, we are planning to soon reach out to stakeholders and > dependent parties to discuss a plan forward on this topic. We sure would > appreciate your input in moving forward in a constructive discussion. OK. Part of the problem is that no one outside Canonical know enough to really have an informed opinion. Here are some immediate questions that come to mind: - How invasive would Mir integration be? Is it isolated enough that it could be integrated upstream based on our testing? - What's the time line? When , if we follow along with Ubuntu, would we expect to run with XMir instead of X and when would we expect to integrate with MIR natively? - When will MIR have a stable API/ABI? Scott K -- ubuntu-devel mailing list [email protected] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
