Hello,
In theory Ubuntu developers could change it for Ubuntu only, but you
better report your concern against upstream.
What is more upstream than Ubuntu? Afaik Debian, but as of my understanding they are not
concerned about UI questions, as they don't have a "default" one(?)
Regards
DarkTrick
On 2019/12/07 12:32, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
Hi,
selecting the wanted keyboard layout is tricky.
A single user machine vs a multi-user system where each user might use a
different language and/or keyboard.
There are different levels on how to set up the wanted keyboard layout,
let alone that some apps are more or less smart.
An example, even on a single user machine using X, where setting up the
keyboard layout could be done for quasi everything by the xorg.conf,
some apps, such as e.g. some calculators tend to fail.
Imagine a German keyboard by preferring English for the menus of
the user session.
Some calculators are smart, they "translate" the German "," of the
numeric keypad, to the English ".", other don't.
To cut a long story short, different desktop environments provide
different keyboard layout related GUI dialogs. Some of them follow your
logic, other don't. In then end all of them just steer kind of a middle
course.
There is no smart way to please everybody.
Indeed, "Region & Language" does not suggest "keyboard settings", OTOH
in practise a keyboard layout is related to region and language
settings.
Regards,
Ralf
PS:
In theory Ubuntu developers could change it for Ubuntu only, but you
better report your concern against upstream. Keep in mind that
portability might be important, too. A user might migrate from one Linux
distro to another, or even might migrate from Linux to FreeBSD, or vice
versa.
Disclaimer: I'm not an Ubuntu{,flavour} developer, I'm just another
user.
Dear Developer Group:
In the following I'd like to suggest a change in the display of "keyboard layout
settings". This suggestion aims at an easier user interface regarding keyboard
layout settings.
Current Situation:
===================
(1) Keyboard layout can be set in "Region & Language". The wording "Region & Language"
does not suggest "keyboard settings".
(2) Typing "Keyboard" in "Show Applications":
(2.1) gives "Input Method" as first and only big result. The real keyboard
settings are within the smaller printed results below.
(2.2) The icon of "Input Method" is a keyboard. It suggests, that keyboard
settings (including layout) can be made here.
(2.3) The naming of "Input Method" is "Input Method". The user might expect
this to contain keyboard layout settings.
(2.4) Opening "Input Method" results in a row of dialogs only a technical user
can understand.
Suggestion:
===========
(3) Typing "Keyboard" brings up "keyboard settings" as first (defaultly
selected) item.
That item could be a link to "Region & Language", where the keyboard setting is
done.
(4) (Maybe) Rename "Input Method" to something like "Input System"
(5) (Maybe) Change the icon of "Input Method": Add (e.g.) a gear to the icon.
Something, that makes it look more technical/advance. The current keyboard icon suggests,
that keyboard settings can be made here.
(6) (Maybe) Extract keyboard (layout) settings:
In Settings, create a new Item "Keyboard" and place it above "Region &
Language".
Appendix A: Scenario with current implementation
==================================================
The following is a scenario that happend. To make it easier to understand I'll write it
in the first person ("I") form.
I have a fresh Ubuntu 19.10 installation. Unfortunately the keyboard layout is
wrong. I'd like to adjust it. This is what I do.
(1) Click "Show Applications"
(2) Type in "keyboard"
(3) "Input Method" appears on the screen.
(4) I hit enter.
(5) A dialog appears with a lot of text. Strange stuff I don't understand.
(6) I click "OK". (hoping it will bring me to the keyboard settings)
(7) A new dialog shows me "it is recommended to click 'NO'"
(8) I click "No" (If it recommends so, I think I should follow)
(9) Again a dialog with a bunch of text I didn't ask for is shown. The text is
very confusing
(10) I click OK again.
(11) A new dialog shows me "it is recommended to click 'NO'" (again)
(12) I click "No"
(13) Again the dialog with a lot of confusing words.
(14) I'm very confused and click "Cancel".
(15) The dialog closes. No new dialogs appear.
(16) The keyboard layout is still the same (wrong) one.
(17) I don't know what to do and ask for help.
Regards
DarkTrick
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