Hi. I'm a native Portuguese speaker and this bothered me a bit when I moved over from Windows to Linux (at the start of the Gnome 2 era, IIRC, which is the first time the ć thing appeared.
The solution I've been using since then is the right-alt key combined with ",". Still a bit confusing when using a Mac, but it works. There are good reasons for both behaviors - dead acute is acute and when composed with c it makes sense to result in a "ć". OTOH, an exception could be warranted considering how many people need to write "ç" using a US keyboard. There may be some enlightenment in discussions from the time (early 2000's, perhaps?) Gnome (or some other component it relies on) adopted it over the Windows/8859-1 way (Macs adopted the Windows conventions much later). On Mon, Aug 5, 2019, 20:02 Colin Watson <cjwat...@ubuntu.com> wrote: > On Mon, Aug 05, 2019 at 11:07:08AM +0200, Nilson Santos Figueiredo Jr. > wrote: > > I just got a new laptop and installed the newest LTS Ubuntu version. > > To my surprise, Ubuntu still cannot produce ç properly out-of-the-box in > > the regular way when using the "US international with dead keys" layout. > > I believe that this behaviour is defined by libx11 > (https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/lib/libx11) and it isn't as simple > as saying that it always produces ć: it's supposed to depend on your > locale. A grep should make the intent clear: > > <cjwatson@niejwein ~/src/freedesktop/libx11 (master=)>$ git grep > '^<dead_acute> <c>' nls > nls/en_US.UTF-8/Compose.pre:<dead_acute> <c> : "ć" > U0107 # LATIN SMALL LETTER C WITH ACUTE > nls/fi_FI.UTF-8/Compose.pre:<dead_acute> <c> : > "ć" U0107 # LATIN SMALL LETTER C WITH ACUTE > nls/iso8859-1/Compose.pre:<dead_acute> <c> : > "\347" ccedilla > nls/iso8859-13/Compose.pre:<dead_acute> <c> : > "\343" cacute > nls/iso8859-15/Compose.pre:<dead_acute> <c> : > "\347" ccedilla > nls/iso8859-2/Compose.pre:<dead_acute> <c> : > "\346" cacute > nls/pt_BR.UTF-8/Compose.pre:<dead_acute> <c> : "ç" > ccedilla # LATIN SMALL LETTER C WITH CEDILLA > nls/pt_PT.UTF-8/Compose.pre:<dead_acute> <c> : "ç" ccedilla # LATIN > SMALL LETTER C WITH CEDILLA > > I hope this will help you narrow down where the problem is: either the > compose definitions aren't taking effect, in which case you'd need to > track down what's supposed to be applying them and isn't, or the compose > definitions are wrong, in which case you would be best off taking this > up with X11 upstream. > > (That said, while I don't use dead-key layouts myself, I seem to get ç > when I type Compose ' c even though that isn't what the Compose file > says I should get. Not quite sure what's going on there.) > > > "Ć" is a character that is used in Polish (38.5 million speakers) and > > apparently also Croatian (6 millions speakers) and some related languages > > when using loanwords. > > "Ç" on the other hand, is used by Portuguese (215-260 million speakers), > > French (80 million native, 270 million total speakers), Turkish (75 > > million), Catalan (4-10million), Albanian (5 million), Azerbaijani (23 > > million), plus at least Tatar, Turkmen, Kurdish and Zazaki, Friulian, > > Ligurian and Occitan. > > Given that this is (as far as I can tell) supposed to depend on the > locale, there should be no need to play off different groups of people > against each other like this. > > -- > Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] > > -- > Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list > Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss >
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