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Hi Robie, Hi Robie, On 24/05/16 12:04, Robie Basak wrote:
My interest is to update lirc to a more recent version. As of today, lirc has released 0.9.4. Ubuntu is still on 0.9.0, from 2011, and this is becoming a problem upstream since we cannot really support the users of this very old version. Also, recent kernel changes will break lirc 0.9.0 in some usecases. Of course, I have tried to make the update to Debian. However, the debian lirc maintainer is inactive, so this road is complicated. I have tried, really, for more or less a year. I have a packaging and a sponsor, but I'm blocked on the maintainer.
I don't see a Debian bug against lirc for this (based on your description I'd expect to see bugs in Debian tagged with patches).
There is a RFS request [1]. There is also a large number of bugs fixed in the tentative changelog, one of them filed by me more than a year ago about lirc lagging too much from upstream [2]. The last package, same as in the PPA, is also available on mentors.debian.net.
Though I do see only NMU uploads in Debian recently. It might be worth sorting out bugs in Debian so that it's clear to all Debian developers exactly what the situation is. Have you joined Debian's lirc Maintainer Team?
Tried to, but no reply... that's part of the mess. The crew has abandoned this ship, and the maintainer is the only one left.
Where exactly are you blocked on the maintainer?
He sent one answer about January with some remarks which I fixed. After that, I got no response. Given the situation and debian policy, my sponsor cannot upload this without a reply from the maintainer. We are both frustrated, but stuck. I'm sending this message after an advice from my sponsor, who basically sees no other option.
So, questions: Is it policy-wise possible to update lirc in universe to 0.9.4 even though Debian is still at 0.9.0?
Yes, we can do this. Going faster than Debian is a valid reason. However, that does introduce a maintenance burden, so I'd expect whoever pushes ahead with lirc in Ubuntu to make a reasonable commitment about future maintenance.
Well, what we have done is to add a .deb packaging to upstream. I think the upstream project can maintain this, although a separate packager is of course always the best. If/when the packaging is accepted I would be happy to try to evaluate all of the bugs filed against lirc in ubuntu.
How big is the diff of the debian/ directory? This is the part that I'd want to review carefully.
It's still large... http://pastebin.com/qtv67Dn4 (please skip broken changelog)
So yes, we can do it, but as an Ubuntu sponsor, I'd personally prefer to see Debian refuse this type of patchset first, and I don't see anything like that right now. Other sponsors' views may vary.
The problem is just that we don't get any reply from the maintainer, none at all. So it's not refused, just blocked. Cheers! --alec [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=806815 [2] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=777199
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