On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 05:40:23 -0400, Tom H wrote: >It's a bit messy, SOMETIMES.
Hi Tom, I'm aware that it wasn't you who blamed me for spreading "unfounded FUD", it was Oliver and at the same time he mentioned backwards compatibility, inter-distro-compatibility, the feature that one command does it all. AFAIK Ubuntu's systemd implementation doesn't provide any of those three advantages, it brakes all three advantages [1]. The wrapper-workaround-approach leads to misinformation [1]. The mess could be avoided without much work, e.g. for http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/all/rtirq-init/filelist The Ubuntu maintainer just needs to correct the location and add a service file, but even if you would provide the service file and corrected file locations for the maintainer, you can't contribute to Ubuntu. It's recommended to get in contact with Debian maintainers. [1] For example: Imagine you'll maintain your install, using a workflow that can be used for a clean systemd install. [weremouse@moonstudio ~]$ systemctl list-unit-files | grep alice alice.service enabled [weremouse@moonstudio ~]$ systemctl list-unit-files | grep rtirq [weremouse@moonstudio ~]$ Looks like rtirq isn't enabled, but de facto it's enabled. [weremouse@moonstudio ~]$ systemctl list-units | grep alice alice.service loaded active exited Alice PPPoE [weremouse@moonstudio ~]$ systemctl list-units | grep rtirq rtirq.service loaded active exited LSB: Realtime IRQ thread tunning. [weremouse@moonstudio ~]$ systemctl status alice | grep active Active: active (exited) since Mon 2015-08-17 22:55:32 CEST; 13h ago [weremouse@moonstudio ~]$ systemctl status rtirq | grep active Active: active (exited) since Mon 2015-08-17 22:55:33 CEST; 13h ago Regarding backwards compatibility, there is no backwards compatibility when using the service wrapper. Please correct me when I'm mistaken, didn't the service wrapper in the past do the same as /etc/init.d/foo status does? [weremouse@moonstudio ~]$ service rtirq status ● rtirq.service - LSB: Realtime IRQ thread tunning. Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/rtirq) Active: active (exited) since Mon 2015-08-17 22:55:33 CEST; 13h ago Docs: man:systemd-sysv-generator(8) Warning: Journal has been rotated since unit was started. Log output is incomplete or unavailable. [weremouse@moonstudio ~]$ /etc/init.d/rtirq status PID CLS RTPRIO NI PRI %CPU STAT COMMAND 385 FF 90 - 130 0.0 S irq/18-snd_hdsp 387 FF 85 - 125 0.0 S irq/20-snd_ice1 388 FF 84 - 124 0.0 S irq/21-snd_ice1 35 FF 50 - 90 0.0 S irq/9-acpi 60 FF 50 - 90 0.0 S irq/19-ehci_hcd 61 FF 50 - 90 0.0 S irq/16-ohci_hcd 62 FF 50 - 90 0.0 S irq/17-ohci_hcd 63 FF 50 - 90 0.0 S irq/18-ohci_hcd 64 FF 50 - 90 0.0 S irq/17-ohci_hcd 66 FF 50 - 90 0.0 S irq/18-ohci_hcd 67 FF 50 - 90 0.0 S irq/1-i8042 68 FF 50 - 90 0.0 S irq/8-rtc0 135 FF 50 - 90 0.0 S irq/22-0000:00: 145 FF 50 - 90 0.0 S irq/14-pata_ati 149 FF 50 - 90 0.0 S irq/15-pata_ati 157 FF 50 - 90 0.0 S irq/22-firewire 164 FF 50 - 90 0.0 S irq/27-radeon 275 FF 50 - 90 0.0 S irq/7-parport0 786 FF 50 - 90 0.0 S irq/26-enp3s0 3 TS - 0 19 0.0 S ksoftirqd/0 17 TS - 0 19 0.0 S ksoftirqd/1 Regards, Ralf -- Full text of "Guerilla Open Access Manifesto" http://archive.org/stream/GuerillaOpenAccessManifesto/Goamjuly2008_djvu.txt -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
