Please note that telling somebody you think their post is off-topic is
not the same as telling them it can not be discussed. The topic has in
fact continued to be discussed despite Scott's opinion. If you don't
agree with him, just say so and continue the discussion, there is no
need to make this personal.

Michael Hall
mhall...@ubuntu.com

On 12/01/2014 12:11 PM, Alexander Hanff wrote:
> Who died and made you god of what people can and cannot discuss on this
> list.  Diego spotted an interesting new development which he brought to the
> attention of the list with the suggestion that it might potentially be
> useful to Ubuntu in the future - that is completely relevant and completely
> acceptable content to post - you have zero right to come down on him and
> accuse him of being off-topic just because you don't like the idea, so
> please, get off your high horse.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ubuntu-devel-discuss-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com
> [mailto:ubuntu-devel-discuss-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Scott
> Kitterman
> Sent: 01 December 2014 18:03
> To: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: Devuan
> 
> As I explained, it's not relevant.  I get you think it is.  I disagree.  The
> mail (since you care to debate it) is also based on a false premise.  There
> is no requirement in Debian to use systemd as the init system.  It is the
> default.  It's trivial to retain sysvinit and possible to use upstart.
> 
> None of which is relevant to Ubuntu which has never offered init system
> choice and moved off of sysvinit last decade.
> 
> Scott K
> 
> On Monday, December 01, 2014 05:58:37 PM Alexander Hanff wrote:
>> I don't think your response was called for Scott - whether you agree 
>> or not with the suggestion doesn't make it any less relevant.  To say 
>> it is off-topic is ridiculous, it is absolutely relevant to Ubuntu 
>> development and was something Diego wanted to point out as a potential 
>> option for Ubuntu in the future.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ubuntu-devel-discuss-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com
>> [mailto:ubuntu-devel-discuss-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of 
>> Scott Kitterman
>> Sent: 01 December 2014 17:42
>> To: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
>> Subject: Re: Devuan
>>
>> On Monday, December 01, 2014 11:22:22 AM Diego Germán Gonzalez wrote:
>>> I just learned of the launch of Devuan https://devuan.org/ A fork of 
>>> Debian which eliminates the requirement to use systemd, and promises 
>>> to build a less bureaucratic and more friendly community towards the 
>>> derived distros Will have to see how the project evolves, but if 
>>> they do not be a bad idea that Ubuntu will begin to rely on it
>>
>> That's rather unrelated to Ubuntu development.  Ubuntu has taken it's 
>> own decisions on init systems for some time (it wasn't in this decade 
>> that Ubuntu last had a release that used sysvinit).
>>
>> Please stay on topic.
>>
>> Scott K
>>
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