hi,
On Di, 2013-04-09 at 12:20 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 06:45:25PM +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote:
> 
>          ........snip.......
> > 
> > just shipping it alongside would go against ubuntus policy of avoiding
> > duplication in default installs.
> 
> Thereby removing one more user choice. Choice is one of the bedrocks of
> linux. Thanks guys. That's one of the main reasons I dumped ubuntu and
> went to debian.    
> 

removing choice that was never there ? 
sorry, but i totally miss the point of your statement ...

this thread was discussing *adding* something to the *default* install
that hasn't been there before, how can that be removing choice ?

the policy of not adding duplication on the default installation has
been there since day one of ubuntus existence (like the policy of no
open ports has as well)

ciao
        oli

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