On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 13:19, Scott Kitterman <ubu...@kitterman.com> wrote:
> > > "Danny Piccirillo" <danny.picciri...@ubuntu.com> wrote: > > >Of course it is! At least according to our philosophy: > >http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/our-philosophy > > > >Still, many people don't think that Ubuntu is truly committed to free > >software in practice. These people can and should be our allies. Their > >concerns are valid, and they are not difficult to appease. I'd like to > >present a short list of simple ways that Ubuntu could show it's > commitment: > > > >1. Offer ways to easily purge all non-free software from one's system. > > * This would require supporting the linux libre kernel (it doesn't have > to > >be by default, but the option should be available. > > No. It doesn't. That kernel removes the ability to run non-free drivers. > The exact same amount of non-free code runs if you don't have any installed. > Just about the last thing Ubuntu needs is the maintenance overhead of > another kernel that only serves ideological purposes. > > There is already a free software only install option that not only will not > install anything non-free, it also disables the restricted and multiverse > repositories so that people who are concerned about this can safely install > new packages without fear of contamination. > Yes, the free software only option is there, but isn't entirely free. That's what linux-libre is for. Linux libre should be the kernel for the free software install. Mainline Linux is not free because it includes binary-only firmwares hidden as source code files (or blobs) On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 13:23, Alan Pope <a...@popey.com> wrote: > Hi Danny, > > > On 9 June 2010 17:57, Danny Piccirillo <danny.picciri...@ubuntu.com> > wrote: > > Their > > concerns are valid, and they are not difficult to appease. I'd like to > > present a short list of simple ways that Ubuntu could show it's > commitment: > > How about answering the questions/concerns posed to you in the other > threads you've raised today and engage in the discussion rather than > fire-and-forget. You're in danger of falling into the same behaviour > as other FSF members before you. > I already apologized for stepping out of line and being much too imposing rather than inviting to encourage people who care about free software to join the LibrePlanet project. I liked the responses i got, and i appreciated the points that were raised. I said that already.
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