Problem is quite simple - we don't have enough manpower to do QA. Yes, user testing matters, but having a a) spec with basic features defined and b) small, but mobile team who can access to some ten of PCs and laptops with various configurations would be a next step.
Cheers, Peter. 2009/10/28 Evan <eapa...@gmail.com>: > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:39 AM, George Farris <farr...@cc.mala.bc.ca> > wrote: >> >> On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 09:36 +0000, Alexander H Deriziotis wrote: >> > >> > Is there hope for this to be fixed in karmic? >> > >> > I'm no developer, but I think that's very unlikely. >> > >> > It seems to me your best bet would be to try and avoid using the >> > software which breaks the idle-indicators, or if that's too much >> > hassle, just skip Karmic altogether and hope it's fixed in Lucid. >> > >> > Ubuntu does ship pretty bleeding edge software provided by upstream, >> > so regressions are to be expected. It's only a 6 month wait after all. >> > >> According to this logic nothing will ever get smoothed out and quite >> frankly we're all getting a little tired of that. >> >> What they should do is publicly mark this distro: >> >> "We have just released Karmic, due to the many upstream technology >> changes such as HAL depreciation, inclusion of Empathy, etc, etc, please >> consider this a bleeding edge distro not meant for regular distribution. >> Business and regular users may want to consider sticking with an older >> release or waiting for 10.04" >> >> I've been using Ubuntu since Warty and I understand the logic in the >> Linux community of "HAL isn't doing what we want, we're ripping it out >> and replacing it". I think that is a great thing, something we have >> over the other OS's, but don't paint Karmic as the greatest thing since >> sliced bread. Take 9.10 and tune it until it "just works" and then have >> a marketing frenzy. >> >> Trust me, working at the University and also running the Linux users >> group in the area, it would be much better to point at the release and >> say, "see this is marked as a development version, you can expect fairly >> basic things not to work". People are happy with that, the press is >> happy with that, business is happy with that. >> >> What I would hate to see is, wonderful press release about Karmic, >> blathering on about all the goodness, only to have people rip it apart >> due to some fairly visible bugs. >> >> Lets just be up front about it and not drop any nasty surprises on >> people. > > I 100% agree. I like the concept of a six-month release cycle, but if it > means shipping with bugs of this visibility and magnitude then there is > something wrong. If we are going to ship with bugs like this, then we cannot > in all honesty call it a stable release. Maybe calling the 6-month releases > 'major development milestones' would be more appropriate, and leave the > 'stable release' moniker for LTS releases only. > > Just my two cents, > Evan > > > -- > Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list > Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss > > -- mortigi tempo Pēteris Krišjānis -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
